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Post by Since84 on Jun 7, 2016 2:17:04 GMT -8
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Post by bud777 on Jun 7, 2016 7:40:09 GMT -8
I have been waiting to trade my trusty 5s in on a 6SE since they announced. For some reason, I prefer to just walk into an Apple store, give them my old phone and walk out with a new one. I STILL cannot do this because the 6SE demand is so high. and yet I don't see a lot of press talking about the demand. Might we have some pleasant surprises ahead?
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Post by rickag on Jun 7, 2016 8:27:47 GMT -8
I have been waiting to trade my trusty 5s in on a 6SE since they announced. For some reason, I prefer to just walk into an Apple store, give them my old phone and walk out with a new one. I STILL cannot do this because the 6SE demand is so high. and yet I don't see a lot of press talking about the demand. Might we have some pleasant surprises ahead? I will be doing the same except for the iPhone 5SE.
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Post by osx10 on Jun 7, 2016 8:29:14 GMT -8
I am with Bud - went to get my daughters 2 SE's at a Verizon corporate store and the word there was that for the SE w/64 gb the wait was going to be at least a MONTH and that they were backlogged with orders for them. Surprised that there has been zero talk about this continued high demand. VZ store employee was clear that the demand for the SE was strong as opposed to Apple just didn't make very many of these phones (although I think the supply issues are caused by Apple underestimating the interest in the smaller phone and cheaper price point. Interesting that the SE is not one of the phones that Apple has in their upgrade every year program.
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Post by tuffett on Jun 7, 2016 8:52:35 GMT -8
I'm really glad to see that SE demand seems to be high, but it worries me how poorly Apple forecast this. It really seems like they don't have a pulse on the market these days. This is an old form factor with existing hardware internals and it's ramping up worse than a brand new flagship iPhone that sells ~60 million units in a quarter.
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Post by Since84 on Jun 7, 2016 9:21:36 GMT -8
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Post by bud777 on Jun 7, 2016 9:52:03 GMT -8
I'm really glad to see that SE demand seems to be high, but it worries me how poorly Apple forecast this. It really seems like they don't have a pulse on the market these days. This is an old form factor with existing hardware internals and it's ramping up worse than a brand new flagship iPhone that sells ~60 million units in a quarter. Oh for fuck's sake!!
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Post by rickag on Jun 7, 2016 9:55:52 GMT -8
I'm really glad to see that SE demand seems to be high, but it worries me how poorly Apple forecast this. It really seems like they don't have a pulse on the market these days. This is an old form factor with existing hardware internals and it's ramping up worse than a brand new flagship iPhone that sells ~60 million units in a quarter. Could be they have only so many tooling machines for the metal case that are fully depreciated allowing for the lower price.
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Post by artman1033 on Jun 7, 2016 10:00:14 GMT -8
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Post by Since84 on Jun 7, 2016 10:04:31 GMT -8
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Post by tuffett on Jun 7, 2016 10:24:16 GMT -8
I'm really glad to see that SE demand seems to be high, but it worries me how poorly Apple forecast this. It really seems like they don't have a pulse on the market these days. This is an old form factor with existing hardware internals and it's ramping up worse than a brand new flagship iPhone that sells ~60 million units in a quarter. Oh for fuck's sake!! We're more than two months after launch, and you still can't get your hands on one? This is a relatively easy phone to build. At a time where Apple is desperate for sales (or at least they should be) I find it concerning, sorry if you don't. I think my point here is more than valid. It's not a good sign going forward if Apple is not on the ball in terms of consumer behaviour. Operational/supply chain genius is supposed to be a huge strength of theirs. What happened to the respect that you've been preaching?
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Post by bud777 on Jun 7, 2016 10:34:43 GMT -8
Sorry, I just lost it for a minute. I seem to remember an old joke about a company that exceeded their targets by 25% every year and was dinged for failure to forecast. Doesn't really matter I guess, I am just glad that things are selling. and BTW, thank you for the reasonable tone of your recent responses, I will try to express my feelings elsewhere
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Post by macster on Jun 7, 2016 10:37:21 GMT -8
The market is rigged. Of course we all knew that. I follow Eric Scott Hunsader on Twitter.continually offering proof. Heres the latest. @ nanexllc: The reason? My dark pool trade alerted #HFT algos that more might be coming. Details here: www.nanex.net/aqck2/4661.html
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Post by osx10 on Jun 7, 2016 12:33:58 GMT -8
Cue probably needed the dough for the court side seats for the GSW/CAV's series.
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Post by rickag on Jun 7, 2016 13:59:45 GMT -8
We're more than two months after launch, and you still can't get your hands on one? This is a relatively easy phone to build. At a time where Apple is desperate for sales (or at least they should be) I find it concerning, sorry if you don't. I think my point here is more than valid. It's not a good sign going forward if Apple is not on the ball in terms of consumer behaviour. Operational/supply chain genius is supposed to be a huge strength of theirs. What happened to the respect that you've been preaching? Why do you say easy to make? It was one of the most constrained iPhones launched if memory serves.
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Post by tuffett on Jun 7, 2016 14:15:18 GMT -8
It's a 3.5 year old design. All the kinks would have been sorted out by now, and if they haven't then it would be a poor decision to bring it back, don't you think?
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Post by BillH on Jun 7, 2016 15:15:29 GMT -8
It's a 3.5 year old design. All the kinks would have been sorted out by now, and if they haven't then it would be a poor decision to bring it back, don't you think? It's an entirely new design as far as I can tell. I don't recall the aluminum wrapping the sides on the previous generations just for starters. ALL of the internals are new. I tend to believe this is a "how you view the world" kind of issue. Mine is that I'm grateful Apple recognized that some prefer a smaller form factor and gave them one. Many companies don't alter course quite so readily. The small me is continually amused at the seeming importance that is given to subtly different ways to hold the piece of glass that is really the iPhones distinguishing feature. Horror of horror's that the iPhone is visually the same three years running. Never mind that the thing will serve as a combination ai assistant and part time hoverboard. It looks the same dammit.
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Post by mace on Jun 7, 2016 15:51:56 GMT -8
It's a 3.5 year old design. All the kinks would have been sorted out by now, and if they haven't then it would be a poor decision to bring it back, don't you think? It's an entirely new design as far as I can tell. I don't recall the aluminum wrapping the sides on the previous generations just for starters. ALL of the internals are new. I tend to believe this is a "how you view the world" kind of issue. Mine is that I'm grateful Apple recognized that some prefer a smaller form factor and gave them one. Many companies don't alter course quite so readily. The small me is continually amused at the seeming importance that is given to subtly different ways to hold the piece of glass that is really the iPhones distinguishing feature. Horror of horror's that the iPhone is visually the same three years running. Never mind that the thing will serve as a combination ai assistant and part time hoverboard. It looks the same dammit. I can help but wonder, would things be better have Apple launched only 4.7" and retains the 4" follows by 5.5" rather than 4.7" and 5.5" follows by SE?
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Post by nagrani on Jun 7, 2016 17:02:39 GMT -8
I'm really glad to see that SE demand seems to be high, but it worries me how poorly Apple forecast this. It really seems like they don't have a pulse on the market these days. This is an old form factor with existing hardware internals and it's ramping up worse than a brand new flagship iPhone that sells ~60 million units in a quarter. Oh for fuck's sake!! Best post ever. Love it
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Post by tuffett on Jun 7, 2016 19:07:11 GMT -8
It's a 3.5 year old design. All the kinks would have been sorted out by now, and if they haven't then it would be a poor decision to bring it back, don't you think? It's an entirely new design as far as I can tell. I don't recall the aluminum wrapping the sides on the previous generations just for starters. ALL of the internals are new. I tend to believe this is a "how you view the world" kind of issue. Mine is that I'm grateful Apple recognized that some prefer a smaller form factor and gave them one. Many companies don't alter course quite so readily. The small me is continually amused at the seeming importance that is given to subtly different ways to hold the piece of glass that is really the iPhones distinguishing feature. Horror of horror's that the iPhone is visually the same three years running. Never mind that the thing will serve as a combination ai assistant and part time hoverboard. It looks the same dammit. Entirely new design? You can't be serious? I mean, it's obvious that Apple is using the same design to take advantage of cost efficiencies. As for the internals, they are similar to the 6s, and given the lower than expected sales of 6s there should be no supply constraints there. Edit: Looks like images aren't working? In any case it's not difficult to Google iPhone 5/5s and see the near identical design.
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Post by SomeJuan on Jun 7, 2016 20:29:27 GMT -8
Hmmm, still 3+ weeks out on the iPhone SE, me thinks supply chain management needs a swift kick in the behind... I ordered one to replace my wifes aging 5S, and as a 6 owner for nigh on 20+ months, am considering one myself. Highly pocketable, and the specs align nicely with my needs for the foreseeable future. I am long past the thrill of the yearly upgrade mania. 3 months on and they still have no stock, as bud would say..."what the fuck..." :-(
And why does this board not accept common emoji? WTF
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Post by tuffett on Jun 7, 2016 20:42:58 GMT -8
I'm glad at least one person is on the same page as I am.
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Post by JDSoCal on Jun 7, 2016 22:17:46 GMT -8
Some guys in this world would find the negative side of a three-way with supermodels.
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Post by Since84 on Jun 8, 2016 2:20:13 GMT -8
Some guys in this world would find the negative side of a three-way with supermodels. As only JD could put it. Now, if you'll excuse me I have to go back to trying to find a negative.
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Post by aaplcrazie on Jun 8, 2016 7:52:01 GMT -8
Some guys in this world would find the negative side of a three-way with supermodels. Ummm apparently I might be required to Photograph a three-way according to the Script I've just read...... I guess there is going to to have to be a conversation with a Producer as there seems to be quite a bit of dissimilar air-combat maneuvering going on
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