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Post by Since84 on Aug 8, 2016 2:28:49 GMT -8
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Post by rezonate on Aug 8, 2016 4:32:27 GMT -8
Would be very happy to see barometer come to Apple Watch. GPS could make me happy too, although battery drain is still a big concern. A smart subroutine such as they use for taking heart rate could balance frequency with utility.
Anecdotal, but I have noticed more non-Apple technology in television over the last 3-6 months. It might just be my (infrequent) viewing pattern. Still, Android and Same_____ are really pushing product placement, it seems. Taunting Apple, indeed - but once a product is in print it reruns on Hulu forever.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 8, 2016 7:46:44 GMT -8
PED has an article out today about Om Malik's rant wrt Planet of the Apps - you can get the gist of it from the title of the piece: Eddy Cue 'wouldn't have lasted a day if Steve was around'
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Post by deasys on Aug 8, 2016 7:54:45 GMT -8
PED has an article out today about Om Malik's rant wrt Planet of the Apps - you can get the gist of it from the title of the piece: Eddy Cue 'wouldn't have lasted a day if Steve was around' Eddy joined Apple in 1989.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 8, 2016 8:16:22 GMT -8
PED has an article out today about Om Malik's rant wrt Planet of the Apps - you can get the gist of it from the title of the piece: Eddy Cue 'wouldn't have lasted a day if Steve was around' Eddy joined Apple in 1989. I hear you and am sure he (PED) is well aware but sometimes people lose their way or become complacent. Here is a portion of Malik's rant: "This is coming from the so-called celebrity influx into the company, whether it is through the Beats acquisition or Eddy Cue. I mean, look at Eddy Cue. The guy was hanging out at the playoffs when iCloud was burning. For six hours. You know, he wouldn't have survived a day if Steve was around. I'm sorry, that's what gets me worked up about this company. They have all these wrong priorities. They want to do entertainment content? Buy damn Netflix and move on from there. Do it properly if you want to do it. Don't try to and do this stupid penny-ante stuff which adds no value to the company. Absolutely none."
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Post by chinacat on Aug 8, 2016 10:29:48 GMT -8
PED has an article out today about Om Malik's rant wrt Planet of the Apps - you can get the gist of it from the title of the piece: Eddy Cue 'wouldn't have lasted a day if Steve was around' And yet, Steve hand-picked his successor, so why do you hold Steve blameless? Oh, and by the way, the company has done pretty well since.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 8, 2016 12:13:29 GMT -8
PED has an article out today about Om Malik's rant wrt Planet of the Apps - you can get the gist of it from the title of the piece: Eddy Cue 'wouldn't have lasted a day if Steve was around' And yet, Steve hand-picked his successor, so why do you hold Steve blameless? Oh, and by the way, the company has done pretty well since. To clarify - I did not write the article. I just thought it was interesting and brought it to all of your attention given the more recent comments on this thread last week on Cue. That being said it looks like Malik and DeWitt are possibly saying similar things which isn't completely about Cue (I didn't include the whole article) but that the company does not seem to have a cogent strategy when it comes to the TV (in particular) amongst a few other things.
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Post by mace on Aug 8, 2016 12:42:04 GMT -8
I suspect TC views Eddy Cue as the guru on the direction of TV, music and web services, and Apple's best negotiator. I'm also not surprised that Eddy could be the second in line successor, after COO, for the CEO. Very worrisome.
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Post by Lstream on Aug 8, 2016 12:46:47 GMT -8
I always get a chuckle when people think guys like Malik have a clue. The guy is a frikken journalist turned VC. What qualifies him to give Apple advice? NOTHING.
Let's assume Aple buys Netflix? Then what? Their financial contribution would be trivial. There would be no incremental value to the ecosystem whatsoever. Unless Apple was to make content exclusive, which would essentially destroy the Netflix business model. I don't think anyone can argue with the premise that a core Apple strategy is to differentiate the ecosystem vs Android. Netflix would offer no help on that, since Apple could not make any of their content exclusive without a huge backlash and loss of subscribers.
I hope Cook ignores ass clown wannabes like Malik. He has nothing to add beyond which you could get from a homeless guy on the street. At least the homeless guy would not be under any kind of delusion that his opinion is of any use.
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Post by macster on Aug 8, 2016 13:06:13 GMT -8
I suspect TC views Eddy Cue as the guru on the direction of TV, music and web services, and Apple's best negotiator. I'm also not surprised that Eddy could be the second in line successor, after COO, for the CEO. Very worrisome. I'm assuming Tim and Eddy are a little too close for comfort.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 8, 2016 13:30:42 GMT -8
I always get a chuckle when people think guys like Malik have a clue. The guy is a frikken journalist turned VC. What qualifies him to give Apple advice? NOTHING. Let's assume Aple buys Netflix? Then what? Their financial contribution would be trivial. There would be no incremental value to the ecosystem whatsoever. Unless Apple was to make content exclusive, which would essentially destroy the Netflix business model. I don't think anyone can argue with the premise that a core Apple strategy is to differentiate the ecosystem vs Android. Netflix would offer no help on that, since Apple could not make any of their content exclusive without a huge backlash and loss of subscribers. I hope Cook ignores ass clown wannabes like Malik. He has nothing to add beyond which you could get from a homeless guy on the street. At least the homeless guy would not be under any kind of delusion that his opinion is of any use. Malik may not have a clue - I have no opinion on Malik - just don't know him well enough but PED does have a clue and he said, "I could not disagree (with Malik)" - and that's what I found to be especially interesting.
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Post by Lstream on Aug 8, 2016 13:40:51 GMT -8
I always get a chuckle when people think guys like Malik have a clue. The guy is a frikken journalist turned VC. What qualifies him to give Apple advice? NOTHING. Let's assume Aple buys Netflix? Then what? Their financial contribution would be trivial. There would be no incremental value to the ecosystem whatsoever. Unless Apple was to make content exclusive, which would essentially destroy the Netflix business model. I don't think anyone can argue with the premise that a core Apple strategy is to differentiate the ecosystem vs Android. Netflix would offer no help on that, since Apple could not make any of their content exclusive without a huge backlash and loss of subscribers. I hope Cook ignores ass clown wannabes like Malik. He has nothing to add beyond which you could get from a homeless guy on the street. At least the homeless guy would not be under any kind of delusion that his opinion is of any use. Malik may not have a clue - I have no opinion on Malik - just don't know him well enough but PED does have a clue and he said, "I could not disagree (with Malik)" - and that's what I found to be especially interesting. Then PED needs to explain in his own words, what problem buying Netflix solves. PED is just a journalist too. It is likely obvious by now, but I have a VERY low opinion of journalists, especially those that think they have a foundation to dispense business advice. Most of them have zero relevant experience and credibility. So the key questions are: 1. Do we think that an acquisition (especially one of this size), should differentiate the ecosystem and cause more people to buy iPhones or other Apple products? 2. Would Netflix help achieve this? I don't see how, since they would allmost certainly remain platform agnostic. Seems to me that they have to pass a test like this, since they would not contribute material profit.
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Post by phoebear611 on Aug 8, 2016 13:48:03 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Aug 8, 2016 13:51:45 GMT -8
I suspect TC views Eddy Cue as the guru on the direction of TV, music and web services, and Apple's best negotiator. I'm also not surprised that Eddy could be the second in line successor, after COO, for the CEO. Very worrisome. Services are just so bad, they're actually the only currently (consistently) growing Apple revenue category not that I don't think Services aren't really "what I expect from Apple" (to sort out the triple negative with another negative - Services are considerably weaker to me than Apple's core HW/SW stuff), but they're "less bad" with time. And they're at least OK overall.
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Post by chinacat on Aug 8, 2016 14:20:07 GMT -8
Here's the perfect article for today's discussion.
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Post by Mav on Aug 8, 2016 14:23:27 GMT -8
Here's the perfect article for today's discussion. It was surprisingly good
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Post by mace on Aug 8, 2016 14:25:32 GMT -8
I suspect TC views Eddy Cue as the guru on the direction of TV, music and web services, and Apple's best negotiator. I'm also not surprised that Eddy could be the second in line successor, after COO, for the CEO. Very worrisome. Services are just so bad, they're actually the only currently (consistently) growing Apple revenue category not that I don't think Services aren't really "what I expect from Apple" (to sort out the triple negative with another negative - Services are considerably weaker to me than Apple's core HW/SW stuff), but they're "less bad" with time. And they're at least OK overall. Services Category includes revenue from Internet Services, AppleCare, Apple Pay, licensing and other services. Are you suggesting all above under Eddy's oversee?
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Post by BillH on Aug 8, 2016 14:38:46 GMT -8
Nice to see LStream back. Just a reminder from Hari Seldon (aka Steve Jobs). On catching tech's next wave
"Things happen fairly slowly, you know. They do. These waves of technology, you can see them way before they happen, and you just have to choose wisely which ones you're going to surf. If you choose unwisely, then you can waste a lot of energy, but if you choose wisely it actually unfolds fairly slowly. It takes years. "One of our biggest insights [years ago] was that we didn't want to get into any business where we didn't own or control the primary technology because you'll get your head handed to you. "We realized that almost all - maybe all - of future consumer electronics, the primary technology was going to be software. And we were pretty good at software. We could do the operating system software. We could write applications on the Mac or even PC, like iTunes. We could write the software in the device, like you might put in an iPod or an iPhone or something. And we could write the back-end software that runs on a cloud, like iTunes. "So we could write all these different kinds of software and make it work seamlessly. And you ask yourself, What other companies can do that? It's a pretty short list. The reason that we were very excited about the phone, beyond that fact that we all hated our phones, was that we didn't see anyone else who could make that kind of contribution. None of the handset manufacturers really are strong in software."
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Post by Ted on Aug 8, 2016 15:28:32 GMT -8
Om Malik from the clip: "This company just desperately needs a fresh infusion of thinking. I'm not a big fan of this whole Jimmy Iovine kind of thinking that we'll do these hand coded playlists... They just need to build the systems of tomorrow - not keep doing the things of today..." Hey, there's a fresh idea for Apple: build the systems of tomorrow. I bet they never thought of that! Aren't curated playlists what make Spotify the best music streaming service? Om has been anti-Apple for years. His words ring hollow to me.
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Post by Ted on Aug 8, 2016 15:34:18 GMT -8
I suspect TC views Eddy Cue as the guru on the direction of TV, music and web services, and Apple's best negotiator. I'm also not surprised that Eddy could be the second in line successor, after COO, for the CEO. Very worrisome. I'm assuming Tim and Eddy are a little too close for comfort. I guess this is meant to be funny, but it comes off as homophobic and locker room.
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Post by macster on Aug 8, 2016 15:57:21 GMT -8
I'm assuming Tim and Eddy are a little too close for comfort. I guess this is meant to be funny, but it comes off as homophobic and locker room. I suggest you call up Clint Eastwood if you are offended so easily.
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Post by Ted on Aug 8, 2016 16:37:06 GMT -8
I guess this is meant to be funny, but it comes off as homophobic and locker room. I suggest you call up Clint Eastwood if you are offended so easily. I wasn't offended myself, but wanted to let you know how this post sounds.
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Post by macster on Aug 8, 2016 18:20:39 GMT -8
I suggest you call up Clint Eastwood if you are offended so easily. I wasn't offended myself, but wanted to let you know how this post sounds. I wrote it that way. It covers the problems that can be had. Or the good both literally and figuratively. So yes the hint was there.
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Post by bloodylongaapl on Aug 9, 2016 0:45:08 GMT -8
How high brow of you. That could be a new low for this board right there.
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Post by Since84 on Aug 9, 2016 3:13:39 GMT -8
I view Planet of the Apps as an Infomercial -- another way for Apple to showcase Apps most of us would never come across otherwise. It's existence is a testament to success with so many Apps that even in a narrow category its hard to evaluate and failure that Apple is unable to bring the cream to the top.
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