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Post by rickag on Oct 4, 2016 3:41:06 GMT -8
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Post by nagrani on Oct 4, 2016 6:07:43 GMT -8
Broke the bull flag as expected. Trade em well. $$$
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Post by dmiller on Oct 4, 2016 6:13:01 GMT -8
Based on other reading from the past few days, they DIDN'T CHANGE anything about the lens covers.
They're the same as with all the iPhones back to the 5; no better, no worse.
They're apparently using a thin sapphire laminate as the top layer. It's still very scratch resistant, but doesn't have the same level of durability as, for instance, a sapphire watch crystal.
This is just another piece of FUD. The implication is that they've made the lens less durable and more likely to scratch than previous iPhones. Apparently, FALSE.
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Post by mrentropy on Oct 4, 2016 7:09:37 GMT -8
I would suspect the reason they don't use pure sapphire is that it isn't as optically efficient. Too much light loss and other undesirable artifacts. Just my non-expert opinion.
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Post by rickag on Oct 4, 2016 7:49:21 GMT -8
Based on other reading from the past few days, they DIDN'T CHANGE anything about the lens covers. They're the same as with all the iPhones back to the 5; no better, no worse. They're apparently using a thin sapphire laminate as the top layer. It's still very scratch resistant, but doesn't have the same level of durability as, for instance, a sapphire watch crystal. This is just another piece of FUD. The implication is that they've made the lens less durable and more likely to scratch than previous iPhones. Apparently, FALSE. Thank you for the reply.
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Post by sponge on Oct 4, 2016 8:12:14 GMT -8
All TA signs point towards an effort to move the stock lower. This is evident since we started to drift lower after hitting 116.
Based on historical moves, we correct into OE in Oct. how much remains to be seen. I expect 106-111.
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Post by mace on Oct 4, 2016 9:10:21 GMT -8
All TA signs point towards an effort to move the stock lower. This is evident since we started to drift lower after hitting 116. Based on historical moves, we correct into OE in Oct. how much remains to be seen. I expect 106-111. Either you or nagrani has to be correct TA is not saying down, is volatility squeeze, more like some big institutions pushing AAPL down (for accumulation hopefully). Could it be some hedge funds are deleveraging to protect themselves from unexpected Nov election, preserving their bonuses, and have sufficient funds to exploit the aftermath? What would you do if you're a hedge fund manager?
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Post by dreamRaj on Oct 4, 2016 9:30:51 GMT -8
Heading back to black. Buying opportunity?
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Post by sponge on Oct 4, 2016 9:31:26 GMT -8
Stay in cash.
I think the elections are a lock.
Odds makers give Clinton a 76% chance of winning.
We don't need a big sell off, but enough for the big boys to Load up.
It would be awesome if we touch the 50 MA.
Remember it only takes 2-3 days to wipe out 6-9% gains that took 6 weeks to achieve.
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Post by PikesPique on Oct 4, 2016 9:37:19 GMT -8
Hmmm. Last time I looked, AAPL was up 1.73, now only 0.39. Did I miss something?
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Post by PikesPique on Oct 4, 2016 9:40:00 GMT -8
Also, in the iPad app, I'm seeing posts tagged as 5 hours prior to my local time. What's up with that?
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Post by BillH on Oct 4, 2016 9:44:15 GMT -8
Hmmm. Last time I looked, AAPL was up 1.73, now only 0.39. Did I miss something? The Google event was pretty impressive. I'm not sure I can continue to say that Apple doesn't have a viable competitor.
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Post by chinacat on Oct 4, 2016 9:54:02 GMT -8
We are flying to LA this afternoon to see older son (recording engineer) and his wife (singer), but especially grandson #1 (coming up on 1 year old). A couple of months ago they invited us out to join them for Desert Trip, informally referred to as "Geezer-chella" because it is being held in the same facilities where the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival is held every year. He grew up hearing music from all of the bands, and as there are already several missing band members among them, there probably won't too many more chances to catch them live. I'll be keeping my eye on Apple/AAPL, of course, and occasionally checking in on AFB, but may not have much time or energy to contribute. I certainly hope that the technical forecasts of a run to $120 and above come to fruition. Have a great week, everyone!
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Post by deasys on Oct 4, 2016 11:05:18 GMT -8
Hmmm. Last time I looked, AAPL was up 1.73, now only 0.39. Did I miss something? The Google event was pretty impressive. I'm not sure I can continue to say that Apple doesn't have a viable competitor. You perhaps might think so after six years of trying… daringfireball.net/linked/2016/10/04/pixel-gurman-firstIs it different this time?
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 4, 2016 12:46:10 GMT -8
You beat me to it, in a more elegant manner than I would have replied. Previous Google phones have sold like turd Popsicles in Alaska in January. Samsung sells tens of millions of phones a year, and they are a fiery, low-margin joke that most people here don't consider an Apple competitor. Shiny cool products aren't enough. Innovation = invention + a market. Sell a few million decently-margined phones in a quarter, then I'll worry. For now, Apple's only competition is with itself, on metrics pooped out by charlatan WS ANALysts who haven't brought so much as a hot dog stand to market. OK, GTG spread my pixie dust elsewhere now.
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Post by nagrani on Oct 4, 2016 12:48:38 GMT -8
All TA signs point towards an effort to move the stock lower. This is evident since we started to drift lower after hitting 116. Based on historical moves, we correct into OE in Oct. how much remains to be seen. I expect 106-111. Either you or nagrani has to be correct TA is not saying down, is volatility squeeze, more like some big institutions pushing AAPL down (for accumulation hopefully). Could it be some hedge funds are deleveraging to protect themselves from unexpected Nov election, preserving their bonuses, and have sufficient funds to exploit the aftermath? What would you do if you're a hedge fund manager? Agreed.
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Post by tuffett on Oct 4, 2016 12:59:16 GMT -8
Sorry to bust your bubble, but Samsung sells more than a few million high margin phones and they are certainly a competitor. That they sell low margin crap in addition doesn't change that fact. Also, as time goes on and the market continues to mature, Apple absolutely does have to worry increasingly more about the low margin phones that are now good enough to provide a solid user experience, especially in parts of the world without subsidies and a weak currency.
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Post by BillH on Oct 4, 2016 13:16:11 GMT -8
Samsung had a phone running Android, a pc running windows or a laptop running chrome with televisions seemingly unrelated to all of the aforementioned devices. Not exactly competition as far as I was concerned. Google all of a sudden covers most of the bases that Apple does plus a couple of extras. All seemingly with the ability to interconnect or function independently. Jon Gruber may think that someone cares about their failure with past approaches and some will certainly do a side by side of the google folks saying things that Steve said over a decade ago but so what? Those that dislike Apple will suddenly have what appears to be some really nice choices that weren't available prior to today. I think it's concerning.
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Post by tuffett on Oct 4, 2016 15:36:24 GMT -8
Samsung had a phone running Android, a pc running windows or a laptop running chrome with televisions seemingly unrelated to all of the aforementioned devices. Not exactly competition as far as I was concerned. Google all of a sudden covers most of the bases that Apple does plus a couple of extras. All seemingly with the ability to interconnect or function independently. Jon Gruber may think that someone cares about their failure with past approaches and some will certainly do a side by side of the google folks saying things that Steve said over a decade ago but so what? Those that dislike Apple will suddenly have what appears to be some really nice choices that weren't available prior to today. I think it's concerning. It is concerning. Google is growing their core business (advertising) while slowly eating into Apple hardware. The fact that they make little money off it is irrelevant to me as an AAPL investor because it means fewer sales of Apple products and thus less revenue and profit. Free software and cheap hardware that's good enough and getting better is something Apple needs to worry about.
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Post by bud777 on Oct 4, 2016 16:41:56 GMT -8
Apparently, once again we are doomed
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Post by rickag on Oct 4, 2016 17:55:49 GMT -8
Samsung had a phone running Android, a pc running windows or a laptop running chrome with televisions seemingly unrelated to all of the aforementioned devices. Not exactly competition as far as I was concerned. Google all of a sudden covers most of the bases that Apple does plus a couple of extras. All seemingly with the ability to interconnect or function independently. Jon Gruber may think that someone cares about their failure with past approaches and some will certainly do a side by side of the google folks saying things that Steve said over a decade ago but so what? Those that dislike Apple will suddenly have what appears to be some really nice choices that weren't available prior to today. I think it's concerning. It is concerning. Google is growing their core business ( advertising being a peeping tom) while slowly eating into Apple hardware. The fact that they make little money off it is irrelevant to me as an AAPL investor because it means fewer sales of Apple products and thus less revenue and profit. Free software and cheap hardware that's good enough and getting better is something Apple needs to worry about. It doesn't matter to millions, it matters to me.
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Post by tuffett on Oct 4, 2016 21:04:01 GMT -8
Apparently, once again we are doomed Not doomed, but to think that Apple's only competition is itself is, quite frankly, absurd. I think Apple has learned their lesson (they quite clearly were surprised by weak iPhone 6s demand as evidenced by the huge channel stuff to barely meet guidance in FQ12016) but apparently some of us here have not.
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