chinacat
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Post by chinacat on Feb 13, 2018 8:18:25 GMT -8
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Post by sponge on Feb 13, 2018 8:55:22 GMT -8
In the past the stock went nowhere after the shareholders meeting.
I expect us to hug the 200 MA line for about two more weeks before we make the next move up.
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Post by ono on Feb 13, 2018 9:21:03 GMT -8
Is any site streaming or real-time reporting the meeting?
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Post by alxyz on Feb 13, 2018 9:25:39 GMT -8
Is it possible that yesterday‘s rise was due to AAPL’s buying?
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Post by dreamRaj on Feb 13, 2018 9:40:33 GMT -8
Is it possible that yesterday‘s rise was due to AAPL’s buying? Probably not. Yesterday, ALL stocks were in recovery mode, a "Wheeee" of sorts. The days that I suspect Apple is buying are those when the rest of the market is flat and AAPL is up by $3-4. Also, I remember seeing AAPL with its trademark 'up for no reason' days during the week after news comes out that Apple is "raising debt of $xx billion".
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Post by gtrplyr on Feb 13, 2018 10:32:15 GMT -8
Consumer reports spouting off again regarding Apple's Home Pod with a rather mediocre review of the sound quality, meanwhile more serious audio magazines and sites are giving it glowing reviews (well for sound anyway .... I have a feeling SIRI needs to do some catching up) ....
Once again ... Consumer Reports ... please stick to reviewing washing machines, microwaves and tupperware. I can't stand consumer reports, my mother in law for some reason got me a subscription ... every issue when straight into the trash without me opening it up ...
Cheers to the longs ...
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 13, 2018 10:51:40 GMT -8
Is any site streaming or real-time reporting the meeting? That's not something that has been done in the past. I'd like to see a taped version of it, and think we might have been able to get Investor Relations to do that this year since they "sold out" of tickets. But I didn't try asking them. Here's a little info on voting down two proposals , which also has a quote from Tim about a special or dramatically raised dividend: "At an annual shareholder meeting at Apple Park in Cupertino on Tuesday, Cook responded to a question on whether the company might double its dividend in the wake of changes to United States tax laws that allowed corporations to bring back overseas cash at lower tax rates than before. "Special dividends, I'm not really a fan of," Cook responded. "But in terms of annual increases in the dividend, it is something that this board and management are committed to doing." Cook said the company would provide an update on its capital return program during its April earnings call with investors, as it has done for the past several years."
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Post by ono on Feb 13, 2018 10:54:55 GMT -8
Is any site streaming or real-time reporting the meeting? "Special dividends, I'm not really a fan of," Cook responded. "But in terms of annual increases in the dividend, it is something that this board and management are committed to doing." Thanks. Good to hear.
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Post by artman1033 on Feb 13, 2018 11:07:10 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 13, 2018 12:09:11 GMT -8
Included there now is a link to this article on the meeting that she just wrote. It says security was high, and that all board members were there, so I expect some of that extra security was for Gore. I never made it to a shareholder meeting that he was at, but believe that this has been part of Apple's hightened security at the meetings over the years. A couple other articles here (focusing on medical side) and here (really just the same info as the other two) , along with a quick video from CNBCNothing too exciting (aside from a tiny bit of color on that planned dividend increase), but normally there isn't. OTOH, AAPL is in the green, which is always great to have.
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Post by longsince98 on Feb 13, 2018 12:27:07 GMT -8
Interesting read on Apple from Microsoft’s Steve Sinofsky
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Post by 4aapl on Feb 13, 2018 13:36:55 GMT -8
Interesting read on Apple from Microsoft’s Steve Sinofsky A good stream of thoughts, including things like: "26/ Look, there are bugs. You (and Apple) can make a list of them. But mostly this is about change. I know people say that isn’t the case but it is. On any absolute scale number of bugs—non-working, data losing, hanging mistakes—in iOS/Mac is far far less today than ever before." But, as I've said before but couldn't find with a quick search on Apple Insider, this isn't the first time Apple has decided to focus an update or complete version on squishing bugs or making things faster, instead of focusing on new features. But I like this guy from MS's comeback, of "conversation 37"...A bit like Gibbs on NCIS. There was a lot in there, but some of the generalities were: things are pretty good and Apple is ahead of others on quality, having a ton of users means even small problems sometimes seem big, and a lot of thought goes into things which really shows through in many aspects
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Post by BillH on Feb 13, 2018 15:15:56 GMT -8
Sinofsky's comments brought this to mind.
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Post by PikesPique on Feb 13, 2018 15:38:39 GMT -8
Here's one I'm familiar with during my software engineering career:
"13/ In practice when building Office (and later Windows) whenever someone on the team would panic and ask “are we date driven, feature driven, or quality driven” we would just roll our eyes and pull up a chair…This was so common we just called it conversation #37 and move on."
Fast, Cheap, Good. Pick any two.
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Post by bud777 on Feb 14, 2018 8:51:36 GMT -8
Here's one I'm familiar with during my software engineering career: "13/ In practice when building Office (and later Windows) whenever someone on the team would panic and ask “are we date driven, feature driven, or quality driven” we would just roll our eyes and pull up a chair…This was so common we just called it conversation #37 and move on." Fast, Cheap, Good. Pick any two. It is actually possible to do all three. My first 8 years in software development were spent tracking missiles and controlling satellites. That software had to be perfect. You just got one chance. Software up until 1970 was generally "Code and Fix". There was a revolution in development methods called "Structured Programming" that happened about 1970. It treated software development as a form of engineering rather than a craft or art. Companies like CDC and other government contractors refined this method over the years until it was accepted as a standard for development for military projects. It is sometimes known as the "waterfall method". It was based on a great deal of upfront planning and documentation but it worked. Unfortunately, most programmers want to write code, not documentation. As we moved to personal computers from the days of minicomputers, it became harder and harder to interest people in the discipline required by the waterfall method. I doubt it is used today beyond the military. In the next 42 years of my programming career, I rarely saw it used. It was clear from the beginning that Microsoft did not have a well developed software methodology. When "Extreme Programming" became popular, that methodology took the step of removing documentation along with a definition of the outcome of the project. In essence it said,"Lets write code until we are out of time and call it successful. If the client is involved in the process, we will probably give him most of what he wants". For a lot of software, maybe for most software, this is a reasonable approach. As long as you can roll out an update with new features and bug fixes, why work to make it perfect? In some ways, Extreme Programming (or Agile programming as it is sometimes called) was a step forward. Not all software needs to be perfect. I became a little obsessed with this question in 1987, after 20 years of coding and managing software projects. It lead me to going back to school while I was working and eventually became the topic of my Ph.D dissertation. It is a fascinating topic that ranges from the impact of different computer languages and technologies to the impact of group psychology. I have come to the belief that it is possible to write software on schedule that meets requirements and is bug free, but I doubt if we will ever do it on a widespread basis. It is just too much fun to hack.
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