Since84
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Post by Since84 on Apr 2, 2018 2:40:29 GMT -8
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Post by michelc on Apr 2, 2018 6:43:49 GMT -8
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Since84
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Post by Since84 on Apr 2, 2018 7:27:21 GMT -8
LOL at that headline.
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Post by chinacat on Apr 2, 2018 8:53:13 GMT -8
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Post by mrentropy on Apr 2, 2018 9:57:04 GMT -8
AAPL may be down but is far more resilient than the market as a whole and tech in particular.
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Post by bud777 on Apr 2, 2018 10:40:01 GMT -8
There is a story out today that Apple will use its own processors in Macs starting in 2020. I doubled my Apple investment when they started using Intel processors. Back then, I think Apple had under 5% market share because the software written for PCs would not run in native mode. Since it was emulated, the performance was a fraction of what it would do on a PC. I know the world has changed, but does this mean that someone using EXCEL or WORD will not be able to run them on a Mac? The world of virtual machines and modern chips is beginning to feel like magic. Can anyone reassure me that we are not taking a step backwards? Or has all windows software really become irrelevant?
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Post by CdnPhoto on Apr 2, 2018 11:07:13 GMT -8
There is a story out today that Apple will use its own processors in Macs starting in 2020. I doubled my Apple investment when they started using Intel processors. Back then, I think Apple had under 5% market share because the software written for PCs would not run in native mode. Since it was emulated, the performance was a fraction of what it would do on a PC. I know the world has changed, but does this mean that someone using EXCEL or WORD will not be able to run them on a Mac? The world of virtual machines and modern chips is beginning to feel like magic. Can anyone reassure me that we are not taking a step backwards? Or has all windows software really become irrelevant? Applications like Word or Excel are written in an intermediate language, like Swift. The underlying chip wouldn't impact this. Products like Parallels, or VMware on the Mac might see some impact, as would applications running on them. You see this with iOS applications. You can get Word and Excel for your iPad for example. In short, Mac native applications (like those you get from the Mac AppStore) would not be negatively impacted. On the other hand, we could see improvements in performance from these chips. Current Intel chips have a lot of overhead for backwards compatibility. This wouldn't be an issue on Macs. Mostly Windows related. So, the chip wouldn't be as intense, and would be designed specifically for the Mac. INTC down more than 6% at the moment.
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Post by Luckychoices on Apr 2, 2018 11:26:28 GMT -8
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Post by Luckychoices on Apr 2, 2018 11:35:11 GMT -8
This is one of the links from my previous post. It's from 2016 but is a longer and more interesting article, IMO: Apple's first 40 years: An oral history from inside the loopIt also has a ton of interesting Apple-related anecdotes and facts that are not well known by most. Well, by me anyway. This is one of the anecdotes I liked: 90 hours a week and loving it
Apple's first success came from the Apple II computer, and it tried to follow that up with the Lisa. But early Apple became better known for another computer, the Macintosh. The Mac started as a research project in the late '70s with only four employees before becoming Jobs' pet project by January 1981.
There was a lot of competition between the Apple II, Lisa and Mac teams. For one off-site retreat, the Mac group, which flew the pirate flag over its offices, had gray hoodies printed up. They read: "90 hours a week. And loving it," in a red and black font, recalled Coleman, who joined Apple in 1981 as finance controller for the Mac.
Every member of the Mac team, about 100 people at that time, got the hoodie. It was a hit.
"Within a week of coming back [from the retreat], the Lisa group had a shirt that said 'Working 70 hours a week. And shipping product,'" Coleman said. "A week later, the Apple II group, which was making all the money hand over fist, had a shirt that said, 'Working 50 hours a week. And making profits."
"Who knew it was going to cause a reaction across the entire campus?" Coleman added.
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Post by ono on Apr 2, 2018 12:19:12 GMT -8
AAPL may be down but is far more resilient than the market as a whole and tech in particular. Indeed. Graphic:
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Post by mrentropy on Apr 2, 2018 12:34:31 GMT -8
Once a decent version of excel and word came out, I stopped booting Fusion to run windows. I can’t speak to all use cases, but I think the need for windows compatibility has decreased in recent years
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Post by crispin on Apr 2, 2018 15:16:47 GMT -8
Once a decent version of excel and word came out, I stopped booting Fusion to run windows. I can’t speak to all use cases, but I think the need for windows compatibility has decreased in recent years Quicken Home & Business is literally the only reason I use Bootcamp these days. Maybe Quicken will some day get their butts in gear and offer PC/MAC parity, until then I’m still an occasional Windows sufferer.
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 3, 2018 13:18:59 GMT -8
The link took me to the 40th article instead. Google provided this for the 42ndMissed all the dropping on monday, while working with one of the cousins on learning to ski. But after having as many as 12 relatives visiting, they all headed to other places this morning. It's a bit quieter now.
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Post by Luckychoices on Apr 3, 2018 16:22:18 GMT -8
The link took me to the 40th article instead. Fixed the link. In my defense, nobody mentioned the link was broken until you did. Thanks!
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Post by Since84 on Apr 4, 2018 1:35:19 GMT -8
Didn't realize that was a 'bad' link. I enjoyed the article it took me to as well...
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