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Post by chinacat on Oct 3, 2019 5:46:23 GMT -8
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Post by walterwhite on Oct 3, 2019 6:09:30 GMT -8
I am begging for a relatively politics-free day for AFB today, though I know it’s probably in vain.
i'll try to take a break responding to the trolls... they're a little feisty lately... wonder if there's anything going on
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 6:36:26 GMT -8
Should have bought those puts on Tuesday.
Did buy a a few calls this morning.
Funny how there are now articles pointing out that the 5G network wont be in place next year. Been saying that for a year.
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 6:49:11 GMT -8
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Post by walterwhite on Oct 3, 2019 7:38:07 GMT -8
something we can all agree on... google's shameless ripping off the iphone has jumped the shark!
pathetic...
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Post by rmhe1999 on Oct 3, 2019 8:01:38 GMT -8
I call a big, stinking pile of BS on the Ming-Chi Kuo story! We see this EVERY year after the new iPhones come out. "Hey, I know the new phones are out, but if you wait just a little big longer, even NEWER phones are going to come out!" I don't know what the intent of reporting this "news" is, but my skeptical self can only assume it's FUD meant to persuade potential purchasers to hold off on potential upgrades. Every year we hear that Apple will come out with an additional model in the Spring and it has never materialized. Other than the original iPhone, an iPhone has NEVER been released in a Q1 timeframe. SourceRinse and repeat the FUD. Us longs are used to it. Edit: I was referencing Sponge's post above with the 9-5 Mac article
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Post by chinacat on Oct 3, 2019 8:28:54 GMT -8
I call a big, stinking pile of BS on the Ming-Chi Kuo story! You left out the link? But I just received an email notification of a PED column that references him, so I'm guessing that's the one you meant?
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 8:43:29 GMT -8
My calls are doing well. Target for tomorrow is 222-223
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Post by chinacat on Oct 3, 2019 8:50:11 GMT -8
something we can all agree on... google's shameless ripping off the iphone has jumped the shark! pathetic... Calling to mind Gordon Kelly's column from May: Apple Insider Corroborates Ugly New iPhone Designs. Let's see what he has to say about these.
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Post by Luckychoices on Oct 3, 2019 9:13:13 GMT -8
My calls are doing well. Target for tomorrow is 222-223 Coincidently, so are the 3,395 AAPL shares my wife and I purchased on 12/22/00 for $1.07/share, split-adjusted. I wonder how the AAPL Longs on AFB who purchased shares of AAPL *prior* to that date are doing today? Better than either one of us, I'm guessing.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 3, 2019 9:27:41 GMT -8
I am begging for a relatively politics-free day for AFB today, though I know it’s probably in vain.
i'll try to take a break responding to the trolls... they're a little feisty lately... wonder if there's anything going on Typical gaslighting, as you are clearly the worst offender on this board.
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Post by eastbaybob on Oct 3, 2019 10:19:57 GMT -8
My calls are doing well. Target for tomorrow is 222-223 Coincidently, so are the 3,395 AAPL shares my wife and I purchased on 12/22/00 for $1.07/share, split-adjusted. I wonder how the AAPL Longs on AFB who purchased shares of AAPL *prior* to that date are doing today? Better than either one of us, I'm guessing. I got in a few months earlier when the shares were a bit more expensive. I think my split adjusted price is $1.25. Lucky, I tell my wife that owning AAPL is a win win because even when the s/p drops we are still getting dividends and since Apple is buying back shares the EPS rises and with a lower share price Apple gets to buy back more shares. Since we don't sell shares even if Apple drops a lot we greatly benefit as long as the fundamentals remain the same. Is that correct?
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Post by aaplcrazie on Oct 3, 2019 10:20:53 GMT -8
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Post by walterwhite on Oct 3, 2019 11:29:45 GMT -8
I call a big, stinking pile of BS on the Ming-Chi Kuo story! We see this EVERY year after the new iPhones come out. "Hey, I know the new phones are out, but if you wait just a little big longer, even NEWER phones are going to come out!" I don't know what the intent of reporting this "news" is, but my skeptical self can only assume it's FUD meant to persuade potential purchasers to hold off on potential upgrades. Every year we hear that Apple will come out with an additional model in the Spring and it has never materialized.
i don't get it... why is rumor of updated iphone SE considered FUD or bad for apple? PED's take... (see comments)
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Post by chinacat on Oct 3, 2019 11:35:29 GMT -8
Perhaps you are correct, but there is substantial corroboration, including Mark Gurman. The question may be the distribution plan, perhaps limited to, or at least focused on, countries with a less well-heeled populace. Once Apple gets folks into the ecosystem, they tend to stay and look to move up to better devices when able.
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 11:49:21 GMT -8
Apple has a pretty good idea of what is selling and what the future looks like. The original SE was announced after a killer 6 upgrade broke all records. The 6S was not as popular and people complained about price and size. Then we got the SE.
History repeats itself. The XS did well but the 11 despite what you hear is not going to do as well. Apple is now introducing the SE 3 to make up the difference in sales. It may stop the bleeding but there are limits in how much the consumers will pay for a new iPhone. If they simply put in the A13 chip, then those with the 6 will feel like they can upgrade and get the latest chips and maybe a better camera. The battery will be much improved and perhaps the biggest reason. The price will have to be around $499, which will create an interesting dilemma since for those who can get the 8 or 11.
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Post by lulli on Oct 3, 2019 11:57:52 GMT -8
About the supposed SE 2: What I don't understand is why an iPhone 8 form factor (with touchID and smaller screen but essentially the same overall size as the iPhone 11) would make sense. The people who would buy that would just as well buy the iPhone 8. Another form factor, smaller, that would differentiate from the exiting ones and make the small-iphone-people happy would seem a better idea, especially if it is a faceID one, because then they would have a complete line up of phones that work the same.
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 12:01:02 GMT -8
The 8 is two year old technology and the 11 is still too expensive and too big. Not everyone wants Face ID. It would entice the 6 and 6S owners to upgrade.
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Post by Luckychoices on Oct 3, 2019 12:21:50 GMT -8
Coincidently, so are the 3,395 AAPL shares my wife and I purchased on 12/22/00 for $1.07/share, split-adjusted. I wonder how the AAPL Longs on AFB who purchased shares of AAPL *prior* to that date are doing today? Better than either one of us, I'm guessing. I got in a few months earlier when the shares were a bit more expensive. I think my split adjusted price is $1.25. Lucky, I tell my wife that owning AAPL is a win win because even when the s/p drops we are still getting dividends and since Apple is buying back shares the EPS rises and with a lower share price Apple gets to buy back more shares. Since we don't sell shares even if Apple drops a lot we greatly benefit as long as the fundamentals remain the same. Is that correct? What you’re telling your wife is absolutely correct as far as I’m concerned, eastbaybob. And it’s not only Apple that gets to buy back shares at a lower share price because when the AAPL happens to be lower at dividend time, the AAPL dividends in our IRA’s buy *many* more shares at that lower price. I don't see how anyone could look at what AAPL/Apple has done over the last 20 years and not want to participate in that win-win instead of trying to anticipate what the market will do short term. Not that there's anything wrong with that but I just don't need the anxiety that must go with that strategy. In fact, when my wife and I lost about $100,000 in the Market Crash of 2000-2002, it was really the best thing that could have happened to us, financially, if one considers the long term. And, of course, by definition, AAPL Longs *always* consider the long term. Short term, we lost $100,000 but it forced us to rethink our investments and we decided to consolidate the money left over from our, now crashed, investments in Sun Microsystems, Oracle, Home Depot, Cisco, JDSU, Nokia, etc., into AAPL_stock from a company that made products we actually used. After that time, any investment money went into AAPL and we expected that after retirement, when needed, we could slowly sell off shares of AAPL to supplement our monthly retirement checks and my Social Security. As it turned out, thanks to Apple restarting the dividend program in August of 2012, our current yearly AAPL dividends ~ 5 X (my pension[23 years]+wife's pension[29 years]+my Social Security). Since I’m over 70.5 years of age, I do now have to sell shares of AAPL every year to satisfy my RMD but, whenever possible, the shares I sell are those recently purchased with AAPL dividends. The lower the AAPL share price is at dividend time, the more of those “free” shares are available to be sold without selling shares I’ve owned for years. As you said, win-win. Cheers, eastbaybob, and cheers to the rest of the Apple Longs on AFB!
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Post by Luckychoices on Oct 3, 2019 12:29:50 GMT -8
The 8 is two year old technology and the 11 is still too expensive and too big. Plus, the 11 takes photos that are just *too* good. Nobody wants that. /s Not everyone wants Face ID. It would entice the 6 and 6S owners to upgrade. That's true. There are those who have never *used* Face ID. Those who have, seldom have reason to miss Touch ID.
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 12:36:36 GMT -8
Strong close
Some TA indicators show possible run to 228 next week.
That would be awesome for buying those December puts.
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Post by gtrplyr on Oct 3, 2019 14:20:03 GMT -8
Strong close Some TA indicators show possible run to 228 next week. That would be awesome for buying those December puts. From your post YESTERDAY. "K after studying the charts a little more, I think 228 was the high and we wont see it again for a few years." I guess you changed your mind since yesterday HOW is that possible ?? Cheers to the longs ....
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Post by Luckychoices on Oct 3, 2019 14:24:56 GMT -8
In spite of sponge's conviction that "nobody" really wants or needs better photos from their iPhone, this was nice to read. Apple Now Has the Best Smartphone Cameras: iPhone 11 Pro Review(Bloomberg) -- It’s been a while but, with the iPhone 11 Pro, Apple Inc. can once more claim the industry’s most capable smartphone cameras.
Apple’s priciest mobile gadget represents the culmination of a strategic rather than hardware redesign — one that places the focus squarely on a device’s innards. From the front, the Pro looks much like the 2017 iPhone X. But flip it around and you’ll find the best camera system Apple’s ever devised. Use it for a while and you’ll experience the best battery life too.
With what Phil Schiller dubbed the “first iPhone good enough to be called Pro,” Apple has mostly matched the specifications of Android rivals like Samsung Electronics Co. and Huawei Technologies Co., which have had multi-camera systems for years. But it’s also taken a step further through superior software implementation. Apple’s triple-camera system is ahead of the pack in switching smoothly between lenses when zooming in and out, keeping exposure and image quality consistent. That’s especially helpful in video, where the iPhone 11 Pro extends Apple’s established lead as the industry’s best mobile video camera.
It’s part of the California giant’s new approach of selling services and industry-leading enhancements to a loyal fan base. Faced with a stagnating smartphone market and a user base happy with its existing devices, Apple this year stopped reporting product sales numbers and launched numerous initiatives to augment its growing portfolio. Apple Card got it into banking alongside Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Apple TV+ entered it into the streaming wars against the likes of Netflix Inc., and Apple Arcade turned it into a serious games publisher.
Apple appears intent on reclaiming the mobile photography lead it lost when Google’s Pixel was released three years prior — because the camera is critical to any device, and the latest iPhones need an edge. That’s true even if you buy into expectations in some corners that iPhone demand will hold up despite global trade ructions and stiffening Chinese competition.
Most impressive among Apple’s photo upgrades is the new night mode, which takes two to three seconds to capture a burst of images and then combines them into one. It works just like Google’s excellent Night Sight on Pixel devices, except Apple’s solution is simpler as it kicks in automatically when needed. Apple’s night photo quality matches or surpasses rival systems including Google’s.
That means the iPhone’s camera is again top of its class, turning a point of weakness over the past few years into a strength. But it’s no slouch in other key areas, either.
The battery life of both iPhone 11 Pro models is superb, giving the user confidence it will last through a busy day without recourse to a charger — which couldn’t be said of their predecessors, the iPhone XS and XS Max. A fast charger is finally included in the box with the new Pro iPhones (though not with the basic iPhone 11 model), and Apple has also embraced the gesture-typing popular on Android devices with its iOS 13 keyboard.
The fluidity of Apple’s interface and animations remains unrivaled, aided by an upgraded A13 processor, which will let Apple build more augmented-reality applications while helping establish 4K video recording as the new iPhone standard. There’s still occasional sluggishness with navigation, which suggests next year’s iPhones might benefit from a greater memory allowance.
Apple doesn’t strictly need to win any spec or performance contest. Because many users feel locked in to their chosen ecosystems, it’s sufficient for Apple to demonstrate that its best iPhones are among the leaders. That has historically allowed the company to bypass the rush to reinvent the smartphone every year with cutting-edge tech like bezel-less displays, pop-up cameras or so-called waterfall edges that turn the sides of the phone into display. Apple has the luxury of choosing which new tech to adopt and when.
That being the case, the lack of fifth-generation networking in this year’s iPhone means Apple will miss out on a major upgrade cycle in China next year. Archrivals Samsung and Huawei already have 5G phones on the market.
For the few people not committed to either iOS or Android already, the iPhone 11 Pro is also an invitation to join the Apple camp: It now offers top-notch camera quality alongside an extensive app ecosystem, effortless biometric security and consistently the best resale value.
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Post by walterwhite on Oct 3, 2019 15:06:30 GMT -8
Strong close Some TA indicators show possible run to 228 next week. That would be awesome for buying those December puts. From your post YESTERDAY. "K after studying the charts a little more, I think 228 was the high and we wont see it again for a few years." I guess you changed your mind since yesterday HOW is that possible ?? Cheers to the longs ....
sponge exceeding himself... i'd be tempted to start a sponge parody account, but he's doing it already!
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Post by therealmercel on Oct 3, 2019 16:50:28 GMT -8
Strong close Some TA indicators show possible run to 228 next week. That would be awesome for buying those December puts. Sponge, You must think we all have late stage Alzheimer’s to forget you said $228 was off the table for a few years. Based on what, Technical analysis? You’re doing a bang up job making a laughingstock out of TA (not that I ever paid any attention to it). 😂
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Post by sponge on Oct 3, 2019 17:59:20 GMT -8
LOL
First of all we have not reached 228. We may and that makes me happy since I can buy my puts cheaper.
Revisiting that number is not the end of the world regardless of what I said yesterday. I still think it will be resistance that will not be broken.
We needed to close above that last Thursday and we did not.
I am a bull for this week and I would love to see 225 tomorrow so I can cash in 650%. But will settle for 200%.
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Post by eastbaybob on Oct 3, 2019 18:56:08 GMT -8
I got in a few months earlier when the shares were a bit more expensive. I think my split adjusted price is $1.25. Lucky, I tell my wife that owning AAPL is a win win because even when the s/p drops we are still getting dividends and since Apple is buying back shares the EPS rises and with a lower share price Apple gets to buy back more shares. Since we don't sell shares even if Apple drops a lot we greatly benefit as long as the fundamentals remain the same. Is that correct? What you’re telling your wife is absolutely correct as far as I’m concerned, eastbaybob. And it’s not only Apple that gets to buy back shares at a lower share price because when the AAPL happens to be lower at dividend time, the AAPL dividends in our IRA’s buy *many* more shares at that lower price. I don't see how anyone could look at what AAPL/Apple has done over the last 20 years and not want to participate in that win-win instead of trying to anticipate what the market will do short term. Not that there's anything wrong with that but I just don't need the anxiety that must go with that strategy. In fact, when my wife and I lost about $100,000 in the Market Crash of 2000-2002, it was really the best thing that could have happened to us, financially, if one considers the long term. And, of course, by definition, AAPL Longs *always* consider the long term. Short term, we lost $100,000 but it forced us to rethink our investments and we decided to consolidate the money left over from our, now crashed, investments in Sun Microsystems, Oracle, Home Depot, Cisco, JDSU, Nokia, etc., into AAPL_stock from a company that made products we actually used. After that time, any investment money went into AAPL and we expected that after retirement, when needed, we could slowly sell off shares of AAPL to supplement our monthly retirement checks and my Social Security. As it turned out, thanks to Apple restarting the dividend program in August of 2012, our current yearly AAPL dividends ~ 5 X (my pension[23 years]+wife's pension[29 years]+my Social Security). Since I’m over 70.5 years of age, I do now have to sell shares of AAPL every year to satisfy my RMD but, whenever possible, the shares I sell are those recently purchased with AAPL dividends. The lower the AAPL share price is at dividend time, the more of those “free” shares are available to be sold without selling shares I’ve owned for years. As you said, win-win. Cheers, eastbaybob, and cheers to the rest of the Apple Longs on AFB! It was the same with me. I bought Apple when my son was two. I always thought that I would be selling shares to pay for his college education. The dividends cover his college costs, pay for our cars, and pay for my retirement, home improvements etc, all without ever selling a share. I'm 67 so in a few years I will be forced to sell shares to cover RMA. My plan is to sell what I have to and move the cash into Apple shares in my non IRA account
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Post by deasys on Oct 3, 2019 20:43:38 GMT -8
LOL…Revisiting that number is not the end of the world regardless of what I said yesterday. So your comments are just you kidding around? Okay, got it.
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Post by therealmercel on Oct 4, 2019 0:53:40 GMT -8
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Post by macster on Oct 4, 2019 1:29:00 GMT -8
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