Dave
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 2:18:46 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 2:29:44 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 2:39:48 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 2:44:37 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 2:48:48 GMT -8
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Post by Lstream on May 15, 2020 4:18:03 GMT -8
I doubt that this guy knows anything, and is making stuff up, but let’s assume the delay is real. A bit of background. My company partners with and has production software for the current crop of wearable devices. The landscape is littered with failures and underperformers.. I have first hand experience in working with some of the companies mentioned in that article. And others who are not. Bottom line is that there are huge challenges in creating a product that will be successful for either Enterprise or Consumer. Current technology is just not good enough for something other than niche use cases. The devices have poor battery life, are heavy and awkward, create safety concerns and so on. Everyone in the industry who thought there was a consumer play here, has either pivoted to Enterprise, or gone bankrupt. And the Enterprise market has almost no production deployments. Lots of pilots. So for Apple, there is no rush. There is no market to lose yet. They have the time to create something will have a reasonable shot at being the first true success in this industry. But I think the technical challenge in doing so is going to be tougher than any product they have developed so far. They are easily the best positioned of any company to pull it off, given their unlimited budgets, in house processor design with the best low power performance anywhere, and overall control of the entire technology stack. But with the huge challenges that this class of product presents, I would not be surprised at all that it takes until 2022. And with the state of the industry right now, it won’t hurt their chance for success one little bit. And one more thing. I think you seriously over estimate the knowledge and value of the commenters over there. Much of it is nothing but uninformed nonsense. EDIT - Microsoft is doing reasonably well with their Hololens
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Post by Lstream on May 15, 2020 4:27:56 GMT -8
Apple has seriously reversed in premarket on speculation that it will be a target of retaliation by the Chinese, due to the ongoing tensions with the US.
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Dave
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 5:15:18 GMT -8
I doubt that this guy knows anything, and is making stuff up, but let’s assume the delay is real. A bit of background. My company partners with and has production software for the current crop of wearable devices. The landscape is littered with failures and underperformers.. I have first hand experience in working with some of the companies mentioned in that article. And others who are not. Bottom line is that there are huge challenges in creating a product that will be successful for either Enterprise or Consumer. Current technology is just not good enough for something other than niche use cases. The devices have poor battery life, are heavy and awkward, create safety concerns and so on. Everyone in the industry who thought there was a consumer play here, has either pivoted to Enterprise, or gone bankrupt. And the Enterprise market has almost no production deployments. Lots of pilots. So for Apple, there is no rush. There is no market to lose yet. They have the time to create something will have a reasonable shot at being the first true success in this industry. But I think the technical challenge in doing so is going to be tougher than any product they have developed so far. They are easily the best positioned of any company to pull it off, given their unlimited budgets, in house processor design with the best low power performance anywhere, and overall control of the entire technology stack. But with the huge challenges that this class of product presents, I would not be surprised at all that it takes until 2022. And with the state of the industry right now, it won’t hurt their chance for success one little bit. And one more thing. I think you seriously over estimate the knowledge and value of the commenters over there. Much of it is nothing but uninformed nonsense. That may be true, but not from their perspective.
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Post by Lstream on May 15, 2020 5:22:19 GMT -8
lol - very true
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Dave
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 6:27:39 GMT -8
Apple has seriously reversed in premarket on speculation that it will be a target of retaliation by the Chinese, due to the ongoing tensions with the US. So how far could AAPL drop? It has already bounced off of $300 already, which seems to be a strong support, is it likely to drop below that? At least in this trading session. Just your prospective.
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Post by 4aapl on May 15, 2020 6:30:13 GMT -8
Apple has seriously reversed in premarket on speculation that it will be a target of retaliation by the Chinese, due to the ongoing tensions with the US. Grrrr Though I look forward to a rant from WW. The waves continue. If one was trying to profit from the waves, the amplitude is large enough, even if there are still plenty of unknowns and items on the wall of worry.
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Post by Lstream on May 15, 2020 6:55:58 GMT -8
Apple has seriously reversed in premarket on speculation that it will be a target of retaliation by the Chinese, due to the ongoing tensions with the US. So how far could AAPL drop? It has already bounced off of $300 already, which seems to be a strong support, is it likely to drop below that? At least in this trading session. Just your prospective. I consider myself entirely useless at forecasting short term pricing movements. Feels like $300 is now safe, but that is just a wild assed guess.
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Post by chinacat on May 15, 2020 8:08:35 GMT -8
And one more thing. I think you seriously over estimate the knowledge and value of the commenters over there. Much of it is nothing but uninformed nonsense. Amen
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Dave
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Post by Dave on May 15, 2020 8:38:52 GMT -8
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Post by Lstream on May 15, 2020 8:47:26 GMT -8
I think that the more Apple moves its manufacturing out of China, the more likely they are to attack Apple. If there are little or no manufacturing jobs at stake, then the consequences are greatly reduced. It would be boost to local manufacturers of competitive products. They may attack anyway, but the risk goes up the less they hurt themselves by such actions.
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Post by zzmac on May 15, 2020 9:53:08 GMT -8
The current NFL TV rights deal runs through 2021 for “Monday Night Football” and 2022 for the other packages. How about Apple buys some NFL TV rights and then they add tiny cameras to the players (embedded somewhere that couldn't cause injury). Then with some immersive technology you could watch NFL games from anywhere on the field in hi def. Mics would also be awesome but it would probably be too raunchy for family viewing. Add to that that the stadiums will be empty because of the virus (could go on for a long time) and this becomes a no brainer. The NFL might not like it because people might not return to the stadiums after the virus because it might be a better experience if done right. Or everyone in the stadium would show up wearing their Apple headsets. Ahhh, wishful thinking.......
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Post by walterwhite on May 15, 2020 13:04:32 GMT -8
Apple has seriously reversed in premarket on speculation that it will be a target of retaliation by the Chinese, due to the ongoing tensions with the US. Grrrr Though I look forward to a rant from WW. tough luck! i moved on... trade war is sooooo 2019
bigger things in 2020 that matter more... sickness, death and suffering... and a vocal contingent on this board has shown what it's made of since late february... arguing is pointless, so i'll leave it it someone else
good weekend to y'all, weather looks nice, maybe it'll even kill covid (no it won't, no matter what the anti-vaxxers and covid-hoaxers here believe)
wear your masks
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Dave
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Post by Dave on May 16, 2020 3:36:36 GMT -8
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