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Post by Dave on Aug 2, 2021 1:39:27 GMT -8
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Post by chinacat on Aug 2, 2021 7:21:49 GMT -8
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Post by chinacat on Aug 2, 2021 9:19:40 GMT -8
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Post by duckpins on Aug 2, 2021 10:44:02 GMT -8
I have to say a better name might help. How about the Googlaphone? Or the Youphone? Or maybe the DATAvacuum?
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Post by mark on Aug 2, 2021 11:57:02 GMT -8
I'd argue that what it means for the Pixel series pales when compared to what it means for Android overall. What's going to happen (because it is essentially copying what Apple does, just with some time delay) is that Google will optimize all future Android releases to perform well and tightly with their new Tensor chip. And this will inevitably mean that Android is NOT optimized for Qualcomm, Samsung, or Huawai chipsets. And soon enough there will be a sizable performance difference, and those companies will have to do more and more work under the hood of Android to optimize it, and that means that "their" versions of Android will become [even more] different than Google's version. After a while, instead of doing all the customization every release, they will simply decide to make their own OS at some point. Unless, of course, Google decided to license Tensor to them (for a hefty fee, as Qualcomm does) or sell Tensor to them (with margin attached). Either way Apple still remains with a significant advantage when compared to the Android ecosystem.
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Post by ono on Aug 2, 2021 13:52:27 GMT -8
Unless, of course, Google decided to license Tensor to them (for a hefty fee, as Qualcomm does) or sell Tensor to them (with margin attached).
Maybe Google licenses Tensor SOC for a modest fee? Or for scale, partners with Global and sells with little or no margin? Google makes its money in "services".
Seems impressive:
...he also enabled live translation, allowing the Pixel 6 to convert the recording from French to English in real time. Google’s Live Caption and Interpreter Mode features have been available for some time on various devices, but they’ve never been available for use at the same time on a phone, simply because previous chips couldn’t deliver the kind of AI and machine learning performance to support them.
Apple has experience, hopefully the lead, and continues to work on 5G modems of their own.
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Post by ono on Aug 2, 2021 14:08:47 GMT -8
www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605094/google-pixel-6-pro-tensor-processor-specs-ai-mlBut don’t let that interest trick you into thinking that Tensor is exactly equivalent to Apple’s A-Series chips. Tensor is the system on a chip, with a mix of components that Google itself has designed and others that it has licensed. Google’s not sharing who designed the CPU and GPU, nor is it sharing benchmarks on their performance — though Osterloh says that it should be “market leading.” (Current rumors suggest that it might be Samsung providing those more standard component designs.) He adds, “The standard stuff people look at will be very competitive and the AI stuff will be totally differentiated.”
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Post by mark on Aug 2, 2021 15:38:07 GMT -8
www.theverge.com/2021/8/2/22605094/google-pixel-6-pro-tensor-processor-specs-ai-mlBut don’t let that interest trick you into thinking that Tensor is exactly equivalent to Apple’s A-Series chips. Tensor is the system on a chip, with a mix of components that Google itself has designed and others that it has licensed. Google’s not sharing who designed the CPU and GPU, nor is it sharing benchmarks on their performance — though Osterloh says that it should be “market leading.” (Current rumors suggest that it might be Samsung providing those more standard component designs.) He adds, “The standard stuff people look at will be very competitive and the AI stuff will be totally differentiated.” The first thing the techies will do when the pixel comes out is to check performance. And it is quite possible that Tensor 2021 will be a little more powerful (maybe in some , but not all, aspects) than AXX 2020, a real comparison would have to be between the 2021 models of each. Maybe Google licenses Tensor SOC for a modest fee? Or for scale, partners with Global and sells with little or no margin? Google makes its money in "services". This is quite possible. BUT, there is very likely some underlying licensing fees that Google has to pay for Tensor, and surely those would be passed through. Apple has the advantage of having very few of those, and they are continually working on reducing those kinds of fees by using their own IP whenever possible (they're working on eliminating the onerous licensing fees paid to Qualcomm with nearly every iPhone sold). AND, Google, in their usual spirit of copying Apple, will also do that, just a little bit later in time.
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