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Post by aaplsauce on Nov 11, 2021 23:34:26 GMT -8
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Post by zzmac on Nov 12, 2021 6:42:05 GMT -8
Should Musk's upcoming Starlink mobile phone be of concern to Apple investors or would it be targeted at a small audience? His genius in this regard concerns me.
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Post by chinacat on Nov 12, 2021 6:42:44 GMT -8
Has anyone else updated to iOS 15.1? I made the mistake yesterday on my iPad, and I hate it. Is it possible to downgrade again? Has anyone seen an article describing what Apple has done?
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Post by benoir on Nov 12, 2021 6:52:42 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 12, 2021 7:09:00 GMT -8
Has anyone else updated to iOS 15.1? I made the mistake yesterday on my phone, and I hate it. Is it possible to downgrade again? Has anyone seen an article describing what Apple has done? What don't you like about it? I updated my iPhone and iMac yesterday to the latest and greatest. I might have had a reason. My iMac had been occasionally slowing down and then crashing, after 1-2 months of having 70-100 tabs open. Knowing this (it's happened twice, and things were starting to slow down) I was shutting things down, letting Backup do it's thing, and installing Monterey, a nice 12.13 gb download. On the iPhone, my wife was trying to help her mom out with the weather app (turned out she was using an entirely different weather app....telediagnosing can be fun), so I decided to update. It seems to work ok, but I haven't used it a lot yet. Health app's comparison graph looks new.
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Post by chinacat on Nov 12, 2021 8:20:12 GMT -8
Has anyone else updated to iOS 15.1? I made the mistake yesterday on my phone, and I hate it. Is it possible to downgrade again? Has anyone seen an article describing what Apple has done? What don't you like about it? I misspoke; I actually upgraded my iPad. I suspect things might have been even worse on the more limited space on the iPhone. The first annoyance came from the fact that the upgrade randomly added some of the new widgets to various screens, thereby destroying the layout of the screens due to the new shape/size of the widgets. Due to the extra space taken up by the widgets, some icons actually got moved to a new screen. The primary lesson I was taught about software updates was “First, do no harm.” There should have been a less disruptive way of introducing the concept of widgets, perhaps putting some of the different types, based on which apps were previously in the layout, on new screen and directing the user there. Perhaps I can plead guilty to being a bit cavalier about installing the upgrade without having fully understood the likely consequences. But as someone who had a 40 year career in software, I can only imagine that less experienced users could be even more flummoxed by the distortion of what is the foundation of app organization, the content and placement of app icons on various screens.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 12, 2021 8:41:28 GMT -8
I misspoke; I actually upgraded my iPad. I suspect things might have been even worse on the more limited space on the iPhone. The first annoyance came from the fact that the upgrade randomly added some of the new widgets to various screens, thereby destroying the layout of the screens due to the new shape/size of the widgets. Due to the extra space taken up by the widgets, some icons actually got moved to a new screen. The primary lesson I was taught about software updates was “First, do no harm.” There should have been a less disruptive way of introducing the concept of widgets, perhaps putting some of the different types, based on which apps were previously in the layout, on new screen and directing the user there. Perhaps I can plead guilty to being a bit cavalier about installing the upgrade without having fully understood the likely consequences. But as someone who had a 40 year career in software, I can only imagine that less experienced users could be even more flummoxed by the distortion of what is the foundation of app organization, the content and placement of app icons on various screens. I just looked around, though my app pages on my iPhone, and I don't see any difference. A flick from the top right looks mostly the same. A flick from the top left, which I've never done before but apparently shows notifications, looks fine. Sadly, at some level I don't think people are flummoxed, as at least some just have no idea about the standard order. Admittedly, while I felt I had classic down pretty well, I just never got to 110% with OS X and now iOS. I might remember where a lot of things are, but it just doesn't make the logical sense that things used to. For iOS, part is the separation of various settings for an app, with an app possibly having in-app settings, then having some in general, then maybe having some in privacy or notifications or whatever. I guess it's the whole concept, of splitting off all of these things into thin manageable parts, but then having to sort those and spread them out instead of keeping them together. ... The best thing to do is to make a full backup to a local device before upgrading, and then if you really do dislike it that much, you can downgrade. I've had to recover from a backup a time or two, probably 5-6 years ago, after a bad iPhone update. Other than that, I seriously thought about downgrading the OS X upgrade on my iMac a year or two ago, after a bunch of apps lost the ability to function, including Toast and an old version of Office. This was a known and warned about thing, but I guess I hadn't paid attention. Other than that, in general I feel I want the various OS versions to be fairly updated, just from a security and bug standpoint. Unless there are real negatives, I want to be close. But these days I try to delay at least a month on the major updates. Good luck. Hopefully it migrates from "hate" to just a minor displeasure.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 12, 2021 8:43:31 GMT -8
Nice change in the market, and even more so in AAPL.
FWIW, the weekly options volume are pretty tiny until getting up to 152.5. No major headwinds there, at least as of a little into the trading day when the stock was still nearly flat.
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Post by chinacat on Nov 12, 2021 9:04:17 GMT -8
Good luck. Hopefully it migrates from "hate" to just a minor displeasure. I’ll adjust and get over it. It’s partly my fault, as I have gotten less careful about really understanding what to expect from updates, especially major versions. I think that we all get comfortable with whatever are the important characteristics of our current version, and despite trying to review the changes before installing, some changes just make a more fundamental change to the UI, for better or (sometimes) worse. I am sure there are plenty of folks who find the new widgets very helpful, and perhaps over time I will too.
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Post by mark on Nov 13, 2021 22:23:05 GMT -8
Has anyone else updated to iOS 15.1? I made the mistake yesterday on my iPad, and I hate it. Is it possible to downgrade again? Has anyone seen an article describing what Apple has done? What don't you like? I was told that if you don't like the major browser change (bar on bottom), you can switch it back to the top. I updated my primary iPhone to iOS 15 on Friday ... because I bought my first Apple Watch and whie setting it up, it said "can't operate with this version of iOS". I had updated my secondary devices a few weeks ago when iOS 15 arrived (iPad, old iPhone, older iPhone).
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Post by chinacat on Nov 14, 2021 7:34:31 GMT -8
Moved to weekend thread, where it should have gone in the first place.
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Post by Lstream on Nov 14, 2021 8:01:36 GMT -8
Should Musk's upcoming Starlink mobile phone be of concern to Apple investors or would it be targeted at a small audience? His genius in this regard concerns me. What mobile phone? Is there a link? I have posted before about Starlink being integrated into a phone. It is not feasible on all kinds of dimensions. Beyond that, the Starlink system is not capable of supporting the user densities required of a cell network. Whether or not is was ever integrated into a mobile device. I have been a Starlink customer for almost a year.
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Post by zzmac on Nov 15, 2021 4:26:50 GMT -8
Here's one link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlQ4w1urtxYI understand that the vid is clickbait and speculation but it's the first time I'd heard of this potential phone. And if Musk is working on one I can only imagine it'll be good.
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Post by Lstream on Nov 15, 2021 5:56:21 GMT -8
Starlink requires line-of-sight. It won’t work indoors, inside a car, or outside if there are line-of-sight obstructions. Elon Musk is not about to change the laws of physics.
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