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Post by 4aapl on Nov 28, 2021 20:38:22 GMT -8
FWIW, Costco has better prices that some/many/most of these. Not a huge discount on most, like $20 off of Apple's price on the Series 7 Watches. But 60-70 off for an SE. My son, using money he earned working, decided he had to get one. My running watch just isn't enough to track a run, if you want to share it on Strava. Plus, all the cool kids have them.
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Post by mark on Nov 29, 2021 6:25:11 GMT -8
FWIW, Costco has better prices that some/many/most of these. Not a huge discount on most, like $20 off of Apple's price on the Series 7 Watches. But 60-70 off for an SE. My son, using money he earned working, decided he had to get one. My running watch just isn't enough to track a run, if you want to share it on Strava. Plus, all the cool kids have them. This weekend, Apple has their Thanksgiving offer going, through Monday. If you buy an Apple Watch SE, you get a $50 Apple gift card with it. That pretty much matched the Amazon sale price, so I bought one for one of my daughters yesterday. In the space of 2 weeks, we went from a zero Apple Watch family to a 2 Apple Watch family! 😁
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 29, 2021 10:05:23 GMT -8
FWIW, Costco has better prices that some/many/most of these. Not a huge discount on most, like $20 off of Apple's price on the Series 7 Watches. But 60-70 off for an SE. My son, using money he earned working, decided he had to get one. My running watch just isn't enough to track a run, if you want to share it on Strava. Plus, all the cool kids have them. This weekend, Apple has their Thanksgiving offer going, through Monday. If you buy an Apple Watch SE, you get a $50 Apple gift card with it. That pretty much matched the Amazon sale price, so I bought one for one of my daughters yesterday. In the space of 2 weeks, we went from a zero Apple Watch family to a 2 Apple Watch family! 😁 Yep, we've been thinking of buying them, so potentially going from 0 to 3. The problem is it seems like it would be more for it's "nice trinket" appeal than for the functionality. The needing a charge daily thing bugs me, but truthfully I gave up wearing a watch after leaving competitive running, and I can't remember for certain if I used to take my watch off nightly. It's just pushing it as a sleep tracker that makes it hard to think of a time I would want it off my wrist. But needing a charge daily, instead of 5-10 years of battery life, is just a different conceptual change. As is going from $30-50 to $400. But like an iPhone, it's not just a watch. Unlike a watch, I expect its lifespan to be much shorter, which goes against my "minimize disposability" mindset. It was tough this weekend to sit by as we got rid of my parents old xmas tree stand that had a pinhole leak, instead of fixing it. Look forward a million years, and all of our stuff, and us, are just a bunch of minerals and energy sources. It's in the medium and short term that making and throwing away things at a quicker and quicker pace is a problem. But it's cyber monday now. Time to buy stuff, whether we truly need it or not. Enjoyment fits in there somewhere, whether from the functionality or the trinket. Like Lucky's signature says, "One thing to remember is that there are still limited uses for money."
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Post by mark on Nov 29, 2021 12:25:37 GMT -8
This weekend, Apple has their Thanksgiving offer going, through Monday. If you buy an Apple Watch SE, you get a $50 Apple gift card with it. That pretty much matched the Amazon sale price, so I bought one for one of my daughters yesterday. In the space of 2 weeks, we went from a zero Apple Watch family to a 2 Apple Watch family! 😁 Yep, we've been thinking of buying them, so potentially going from 0 to 3. The problem is it seems like it would be more for it's "nice trinket" appeal than for the functionality. The needing a charge daily thing bugs me, but truthfully I gave up wearing a watch after leaving competitive running, and I can't remember for certain if I used to take my watch off nightly. It's just pushing it as a sleep tracker that makes it hard to think of a time I would want it off my wrist. But needing a charge daily, instead of 5-10 years of battery life, is just a different conceptual change. As is going from $30-50 to $400. But like an iPhone, it's not just a watch. Unlike a watch, I expect its lifespan to be much shorter, which goes against my "minimize disposability" mindset. It was tough this weekend to sit by as we got rid of my parents old xmas tree stand that had a pinhole leak, instead of fixing it. Look forward a million years, and all of our stuff, and us, are just a bunch of minerals and energy sources. It's in the medium and short term that making and throwing away things at a quicker and quicker pace is a problem. But it's cyber monday now. Time to buy stuff, whether we truly need it or not. Enjoyment fits in there somewhere, whether from the functionality or the trinket. Like Lucky's signature says, "One thing to remember is that there are still limited uses for money." I bought my watch (the latest model, GPS version) mainly to track my swimming (nearly every day) because I found I was losing count when I thought about other things while swimming. At least that was the excuse I told myself, it is possible that I wanted a new toy. The plan was to keep the watch in my swim bag and wear it in the water and maybe during other assorted workouts, but not all day. BUT, once I started using it, I realized that it has far more, and far better functionality, if worn all day. And within a day, I began wearing it from just after waking up until just before going to sleep. It monitors heart rate, blood oxygen, overall activity, and a whole host of other things (including falls). I find the sleep monitoring to not be very useful since that is when I charge it each day. It's also nice to see brief notifications on my wrist without having to look at my phone. And that daughter has been wanting one for a long time, and since she is the most active one, she gets the second watch. By the way, I haven't worn a watch at all since I got my first cellphone in 1993 or thereabouts. I also have to add that the watch is absolute beauty, both design-wise and engineering-wise. When I shower after swimming, even today, 2 weeks later, I marvel at the water perfectly beading on the display ... and today I mused that I wouldn't mind a car surface made out of that material! I'm thinking of buying a 4-pack of Airtags ... but I can't think of where exactly I would put them. Maybe in the cars? If I still traveled, I might consider putting one in my luggage, but I don't travel much since covid.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 29, 2021 14:10:36 GMT -8
I bought my watch (the latest model, GPS version) mainly to track my swimming (nearly every day) because I found I was losing count when I thought about other things while swimming. At least that was the excuse I told myself, it is possible that I wanted a new toy. The plan was to keep the watch in my swim bag and wear it in the water and maybe during other assorted workouts, but not all day. BUT, once I started using it, I realized that it has far more, and far better functionality, if worn all day. And within a day, I began wearing it from just after waking up until just before going to sleep. It monitors heart rate, blood oxygen, overall activity, and a whole host of other things (including falls). I find the sleep monitoring to not be very useful since that is when I charge it each day. It's also nice to see brief notifications on my wrist without having to look at my phone. And that daughter has been wanting one for a long time, and since she is the most active one, she gets the second watch. By the way, I haven't worn a watch at all since I got my first cellphone in 1993 or thereabouts. I also have to add that the watch is absolute beauty, both design-wise and engineering-wise. When I shower after swimming, even today, 2 weeks later, I marvel at the water perfectly beading on the display ... and today I mused that I wouldn't mind a car surface made out of that material! I'm thinking of buying a 4-pack of Airtags ... but I can't think of where exactly I would put them. Maybe in the cars? If I still traveled, I might consider putting one in my luggage, but I don't travel much since covid. I expect the same, that like buying our first iPhones, it went from the expected usage to so much more. The funny thing is that one of the primary uses actually will be to tell time. I don't mind pulling the iPhone out of my pocket for other work, but it's actually just a tiny bit of a pain when doing it just to see what time it is. 1st world problems and all that. But our primary clock was out of service for nearly a week, after it consistently having problems setting the dials just right after daylight saving time changes, for the past however many years. I ordered a new mechanism, but it took a few days for it to arrive, and then test it out. I'm sure it will be fun and I'll enjoy it. I know the simple concept of completing the rings gets my mother in law to do just a little bit more, similar to seeing 9700 steps at the end of the day on my iPhone gets me to pace around a little bit before putting the phone on the charger. And I'm sure that's just one of the many ways that it will morph into something I look forward to putting on my wrist each day. Thanks for the background
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Post by Luckychoices on Nov 29, 2021 15:32:23 GMT -8
This weekend, Apple has their Thanksgiving offer going, through Monday. If you buy an Apple Watch SE, you get a $50 Apple gift card with it. That pretty much matched the Amazon sale price, so I bought one for one of my daughters yesterday. In the space of 2 weeks, we went from a zero Apple Watch family to a 2 Apple Watch family! 😁 Yep, we've been thinking of buying them, so potentially going from 0 to 3. I don't believe you'll ever regret it. My wife and I have owned an Apple Watch since it was first released and have enjoyed them from the very first model. No more fishing out our iPhone to see who's calling...just check the watch. The health features and other items are an important part of our records now. My wife used to use a timer when cooking which would sometimes go off when she was in the other room. Now she just talks to her watch, "Hey Siri, set a timer for 35 minutes" and takes the "timer" with her when she leaves the room. The needing a charge daily thing bugs me, but truthfully I gave up wearing a watch after leaving competitive running, and I can't remember for certain if I used to take my watch off nightly. It's just pushing it as a sleep tracker that makes it hard to think of a time I would want it off my wrist. But needing a charge daily, instead of 5-10 years of battery life, is just a different conceptual change. The Apple Watch charges very quickly, IMO. My wife puts hers on charge at night when she puts her iPhone on charge. I wear mine to bed so I put it on charge when I take a shower and, if it needs it, when I have 20-40 minutes during breakfast or lunch. As is going from $30-50 to $400. But like an iPhone, it's not just a watch. So true. Like Lucky's signature says, "One thing to remember is that there are still limited uses for money." Yeah, I stole that line from a smart guy on AFB. 😎
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Post by mark on Nov 29, 2021 16:00:16 GMT -8
I bought my watch (the latest model, GPS version) mainly to track my swimming (nearly every day) because I found I was losing count when I thought about other things while swimming. At least that was the excuse I told myself, it is possible that I wanted a new toy. The plan was to keep the watch in my swim bag and wear it in the water and maybe during other assorted workouts, but not all day. BUT, once I started using it, I realized that it has far more, and far better functionality, if worn all day. And within a day, I began wearing it from just after waking up until just before going to sleep. It monitors heart rate, blood oxygen, overall activity, and a whole host of other things (including falls). I find the sleep monitoring to not be very useful since that is when I charge it each day. It's also nice to see brief notifications on my wrist without having to look at my phone. And that daughter has been wanting one for a long time, and since she is the most active one, she gets the second watch. By the way, I haven't worn a watch at all since I got my first cellphone in 1993 or thereabouts. I also have to add that the watch is absolute beauty, both design-wise and engineering-wise. When I shower after swimming, even today, 2 weeks later, I marvel at the water perfectly beading on the display ... and today I mused that I wouldn't mind a car surface made out of that material! I expect the same, that like buying our first iPhones, it went from the expected usage to so much more. The funny thing is that one of the primary uses actually will be to tell time. I don't mind pulling the iPhone out of my pocket for other work, but it's actually just a tiny bit of a pain when doing it just to see what time it is. 1st world problems and all that. But our primary clock was out of service for nearly a week, after it consistently having problems setting the dials just right after daylight saving time changes, for the past however many years. I ordered a new mechanism, but it took a few days for it to arrive, and then test it out. I'm sure it will be fun and I'll enjoy it. I know the simple concept of completing the rings gets my mother in law to do just a little bit more, similar to seeing 9700 steps at the end of the day on my iPhone gets me to pace around a little bit before putting the phone on the charger. And I'm sure that's just one of the many ways that it will morph into something I look forward to putting on my wrist each day. Thanks for the background YW. Those rings are kind of excellent. In the beginning when I first heard of the rings, I was skeptical and even kind of scoffed at them as a "gimmick", but they really do encourage me to complete them each day. Now, when I'm home, I complete them each day by 2pm or so, because I swim during lunchtime, and the 8 hours for "standing" happens around that time (assuming I wake up between 7 and 8 most days). BUT, last week while on vacation, my schedule was much more flexible, and I only swam once, and did the elliptical once. So the exercise part of my rings was mostly brisk walking (and later I learned that there is an option for gym workouts), I didn't bother to start "workout" for casual walking. And sure enough, my daughter back at college today, first day with her Watch, just sent a photo of the gym and pool on campus (gorgeous gym and pool by the way, the rest of us joked over dinner just now that I want to go back to college). The Apple Watch charges very quickly, IMO. My wife puts hers on charge at night when she puts her iPhone on charge. I wear mine to bed so I put it on charge when I take a shower and, if it needs it, when I have 20-40 minutes during breakfast or lunch. This is interesting. I had thought that due to the low charging current through the small magnetic device it would charge slowly, but perhaps since it is such a tiny battery, it charges quickly. I may try that one week so I can wear it at night to check out the sleep thing. Oh, one other thing that struck me about the Watch ... it is incredibly light! I thought it would weigh roughly what a large size mechanical watch might weigh, mostly due to the battery and the metallic case, but instead it is a featherweight, I almost don't feel it at al on my wrist (I got the solo loop sized to be somewhat tight for swimming). In fact, for a bit more battery life, I would take some extra weight. Last week while on vacation, one day it ran out of juice late one night during a workout walk, and it had to go into "power reserve" mode (whatever that is), and I didn't know how to turn it back on to see the time ... I ended up pressing the buttons a lot and it rebooted (right in middle of a workout walk, but to my pleasant surprise, it started up pretty much where it left off). LOL. #babyboomer Right now at about 7pm, my Watch is at 35%, hopefully it'll last through my gym workout tonight and till bedtime.
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Post by Luckychoices on Nov 29, 2021 16:08:57 GMT -8
Yep, we've been thinking of buying them, so potentially going from 0 to 3. The problem is it seems like it would be more for it's "nice trinket" appeal than for the functionality. The needing a charge daily thing bugs me, but truthfully I gave up wearing a watch after leaving competitive running, and I can't remember for certain if I used to take my watch off nightly. It's just pushing it as a sleep tracker that makes it hard to think of a time I would want it off my wrist. But needing a charge daily, instead of 5-10 years of battery life, is just a different conceptual change. As is going from $30-50 to $400. But like an iPhone, it's not just a watch. Unlike a watch, I expect its lifespan to be much shorter, which goes against my "minimize disposability" mindset. It was tough this weekend to sit by as we got rid of my parents old xmas tree stand that had a pinhole leak, instead of fixing it. Look forward a million years, and all of our stuff, and us, are just a bunch of minerals and energy sources. It's in the medium and short term that making and throwing away things at a quicker and quicker pace is a problem. But it's cyber monday now. Time to buy stuff, whether we truly need it or not. Enjoyment fits in there somewhere, whether from the functionality or the trinket. Like Lucky's signature says, "One thing to remember is that there are still limited uses for money." I bought my watch (the latest model, GPS version) mainly to track my swimming (nearly every day) because I found I was losing count when I thought about other things while swimming. At least that was the excuse I told myself, it is possible that I wanted a new toy. The plan was to keep the watch in my swim bag and wear it in the water and maybe during other assorted workouts, but not all day. BUT, once I started using it, I realized that it has far more, and far better functionality, if worn all day. And within a day, I began wearing it from just after waking up until just before going to sleep. It monitors heart rate, blood oxygen, overall activity, and a whole host of other things (including falls). This was our experience, as well. Several years back, shortly after the Apple Watch was introduced, I noticed an airline steward on an Irish airline had an Apple Watch and I asked him how he liked it. He replied, "I love it! It tells the time and everything." Fine...make fun of the American...I can take it. 😎 I find the sleep monitoring to not be very useful since that is when I charge it each day. You should try it for a week, Mark. It would at least be recording your heart rate, blood oxygen and sleep pattern...OK, not so much falls. 😂 It's also nice to see brief notifications on my wrist without having to look at my phone. And that daughter has been wanting one for a long time, and since she is the most active one, she gets the second watch. By the way, I haven't worn a watch at all since I got my first cellphone in 1993 or thereabouts. I also have to add that the watch is absolute beauty, both design-wise and engineering-wise. It's great to hear of you, 4aapl and other AFB members buying Apple Watches and I'd be surprised to learn that you don't now notice them wherever you go. Besides everyday folks I encounter, I frequently notice them on TV folks and people who work in the medical field. Not that that's the important thing, obviously. The important thing is if they positively impact your life and your family's life. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Post by Luckychoices on Nov 29, 2021 17:00:40 GMT -8
Those rings are kind of excellent. In the beginning when I first heard of the rings, I was skeptical and even kind of scoffed at them as a "gimmick", but they really do encourage me to complete them each day. Now, when I'm home, I complete them each day by 2pm or so, because I swim during lunchtime, and the 8 hours for "standing" happens around that time (assuming I wake up between 7 and 8 most days). BUT, last week while on vacation, my schedule was much more flexible, and I only swam once, and did the elliptical once. So the exercise part of my rings was mostly brisk walking (and later I learned that there is an option for gym workouts), I didn't bother to start "workout" for casual walking. And sure enough, my daughter back at college today, first day with her Watch, just sent a photo of the gym and pool on campus (gorgeous gym and pool by the way, the rest of us joked over dinner just now that I want to go back to college). I enjoy getting the reminders from my watch to stay active and complete the rings. It's a constant cheerleader throughout the day. NOTE: I must explain how my watch refers to me. Several years back, the iPhones owned by my wife and myself kept getting confused as to who owned which phone and our emails kept getting screwed up. So, I identified myself as "Sweet Cheeks"...both to make my wife laugh and to try to get some consistency...when it worked I just left it. Now my watch always calls me by that name.
As I said , the watch is a constant cheerleader for its owner to exercise and complete the rings and is effusive with praise when the rings are closed. Unfortunately, I'm not nearly as consistent as you are...so sometimes, when I haven't exercised at all during the day, my watch still tries to encourage me, even while I'm twenty minutes from going to bed, with this plaintive message: I just have to chuckle and think, "No...no I can't." 😂 I'm pleased that, so far, my watch doesn't send me a message to let me know how disappointed it is with me.
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Post by mark on Nov 29, 2021 22:09:07 GMT -8
I just removed my watch and connected it to the charger. I will wear it tonight while sleeping!
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 30, 2021 6:59:17 GMT -8
I just removed my watch and connected it to the charger. I will wear it tonight while sleeping! FWIW, the iPhone can do sleep tracking too, mostly via 3rd party apps I think. I used Sleep Cycle for 4-6 months about 2 years ago. It's interesting, but if it doesn't hit red flags the best part is like filling those rings, of noticing you might not be getting quite enough sleep, and trying to get a little more. It has a sleep quality, which I even managed to get 100% on, once. For me it was interesting to see that some of the times I thought I was just lying there, it said I had fallen back to sleep. You have to have it on a nightstand next to you, so I set up a wireless charger there. I stopped using it once I was not doing anything with the new data. The Watch should do well too, and probably a little better since it won't be just listening to decide how well you sleep.
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Post by mark on Nov 30, 2021 15:29:59 GMT -8
I just removed my watch and connected it to the charger. I will wear it tonight while sleeping! FWIW, the iPhone can do sleep tracking too, mostly via 3rd party apps I think. I used Sleep Cycle for 4-6 months about 2 years ago. It's interesting, but if it doesn't hit red flags the best part is like filling those rings, of noticing you might not be getting quite enough sleep, and trying to get a little more. It has a sleep quality, which I even managed to get 100% on, once. For me it was interesting to see that some of the times I thought I was just lying there, it said I had fallen back to sleep. You have to have it on a nightstand next to you, so I set up a wireless charger there. I stopped using it once I was not doing anything with the new data. The Watch should do well too, and probably a little better since it won't be just listening to decide how well you sleep. It didn't track my sleep ... I suppose because I didn't turn sleep tracking on via the SLEEP app. It wanted me to set an alarm ... and I don't do alarms. This morning I saw that the alarm can be turned off so I turned it all on. We will try again tonight. Of course, now at about noon, my battery is only 43% so I will have to recharge it during the day (for the first time). I plugged it into the charger and promptly forgot to put it back on before leaving the house on errands, picking up the kids, AND GOING TO THE GYM! I just put it back on now. Seems like my other app that I use to track my workouts (SportsTracker) sent an update to my watch because it has the workout that I did at the gym without it being on my wrist. That's pretty good. I thought I'd have to walk for 2 hours tonight to close the rings. Heh heh. I've had a wireless charger on my nightstand since wireless charging was available. Last thing I do every night before falling asleep is to place my phone on the charger.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 30, 2021 16:03:53 GMT -8
It didn't track my sleep ... I suppose because I didn't turn sleep tracking on via the SLEEP app. It wanted me to set an alarm ... and I don't do alarms. This morning I saw that the alarm can be turned off so I turned it all on. We will try again tonight. Of course, now at about noon, my battery is only 43% so I will have to recharge it during the day (for the first time). I plugged it into the charger and promptly forgot to put it back on before leaving the house on errands, picking up the kids, AND GOING TO THE GYM! I just put it back on now. Seems like my other app that I use to track my workouts (SportsTracker) sent an update to my watch because it has the workout that I did at the gym without it being on my wrist. That's pretty good. I thought I'd have to walk for 2 hours tonight to close the rings. Heh heh. I've had a wireless charger on my nightstand since wireless charging was available. Last thing I do every night before falling asleep is to place my phone on the charger. I think there's still a strong possibility to double up on workouts. I haven't looked at it very closely, but I believe when I record a bike workout with Strava, it also records the movement as steps. It feels good to easily get my 10k, but... Different people use their devices to different extents. I'm still amazed at how well my 11 does on battery life. But I just don't use it that much. I look at it a bit, and will look at it more if I make it out on the slopes this year, as it's great when I'm a single on the lift, and want to feed the mind. Sometimes it's tempting to give Apple a ring, or start working there again, just to fix some of this stuff. But I just don't have the connections to do it on a whim, from my side or theirs. Get some sleep tonight. It only counts if it tracks you. My wife was just a little bit bugged this morning when we were walking our daughter to school, and planning on taking the long way home through the golf course, when she realized she hadn't grabbed her iPhone so she wouldn't be "getting her steps". Ahhhh, technology. So easily we can become a slave to it.
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