chinacat
Moderator
AAPL Long since 2006
Posts: 4,429
|
Post by chinacat on Feb 5, 2022 7:53:02 GMT -8
|
|
JDSoCal
Member
Aspiring oligarch
Posts: 4,182
|
Post by JDSoCal on Feb 5, 2022 8:22:59 GMT -8
This is indeed fugly. A shakedown, pure and simple. But it seems about half of the comments on Slashdot are defending Apple. All these dumb bunnies saying it isn't fair that Apple gets 73% of the pie THAT WOULD NOT EXIST BUT FOR APPLE. Nor would Android exist without Apple (we all know the story of Eric Schmidt sitting on Apple's board when he announced iPhone to them). BTW, a lot of math fail in these discussions: Cutting fees from 30% to 27% is a 10% reduction, not 3% as many who are squealing like scalded hogs are saying. If Jobs did not open up the App store, Apple would have just hired a bunch of developers to write apps. It would have been a slower app creation process, but there would be no App Store to compare it to, so nobody would notice. And developers would have made a SHIT-TON less on their own ideas. As I have said before, Apple might be the most admired brand, but not by who matters in terms of shakedowns: Lawmakers.
|
|
JDSoCal
Member
Aspiring oligarch
Posts: 4,182
|
Post by JDSoCal on Feb 5, 2022 10:11:33 GMT -8
Slashdot has always been much more heavily Android-centric than the general population, so not exactly a fair sample of the world. But even there the debate seems 50/50 in this dispute. The Android types are all pushing for side loading, something they might want, but 95% of iPhone users do not want! (can you imagine your parents downloading unvetted apps from the Internet? What could go wrong?) I made this point to one of them who don't seem to understand that, not only does the Android platform (running on actual phones you can buy) owe its existence to iPhone, but it was the very reason it exists at all!
|
|
chinacat
Moderator
AAPL Long since 2006
Posts: 4,429
|
Post by chinacat on Feb 6, 2022 10:09:45 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by Luckychoices on Feb 6, 2022 10:53:15 GMT -8
I'm curious as to why you find Touch ID to be more convenient...I've been very happy with Face ID and pleased it even works in very low light.
|
|
chinacat
Moderator
AAPL Long since 2006
Posts: 4,429
|
Post by chinacat on Feb 6, 2022 13:10:48 GMT -8
I'm curious as to why you find Touch ID to be more convenient...I've been very happy with Face ID and pleased it even works in very low light. I find that I need to take second shot at Face ID somewhat more often than Touch ID; it’s not a lot, but Touch ID works very close to 100%, while there are a few times when I need to adjust the angle at which I am holding my iPhone for Face ID. As always, YMMV.
|
|
|
Post by hledgard on Feb 6, 2022 18:03:53 GMT -8
I love them both ! They both seem to work just fine.
It is true that Apple is now a huge company, and is being attacked from many sides. I also think Apple is losing some focus in being truly user-centered (in my vocab, not as attentive to true human engineering). My attachment is a bit less than it used to be.
I also subscribe to JD's points, do not kill the golden egg. So many people (employees and stock holders), including me, pay TONS of taxes because of Apple.
|
|
|
Post by deasys on Feb 6, 2022 21:05:18 GMT -8
I'm curious as to why you find Touch ID to be more convenient...I've been very happy with Face ID and pleased it even works in very low light. I find that I need to take second shot at Face ID somewhat more often than Touch ID; it’s not a lot, but Touch ID works very close to 100%, while there are a few times when I need to adjust the angle at which I am holding my iPhone for Face ID. As always, YMMV. You can reset/retrain Face ID: support.apple.com/en-us/HT208114It has been fast and 100% reliable for me in all kinds of conditions.
|
|
chinacat
Moderator
AAPL Long since 2006
Posts: 4,429
|
Post by chinacat on Feb 7, 2022 8:29:33 GMT -8
I find that I need to take second shot at Face ID somewhat more often than Touch ID; it’s not a lot, but Touch ID works very close to 100%, while there are a few times when I need to adjust the angle at which I am holding my iPhone for Face ID. As always, YMMV. You can reset/retrain Face ID: support.apple.com/en-us/HT208114It has been fast and 100% reliable for me in all kinds of conditions. Thanks, I’ll give it a try, but as I did a poor job of describing, I think that the occasional failures have more to do with my sloppiness than any software deficiency.
|
|
4aapl
Moderator
Posts: 3,632
|
Post by 4aapl on Feb 7, 2022 20:33:10 GMT -8
Thanks, I’ll give it a try, but as I did a poor job of describing, I think that the occasional failures have more to do with my sloppiness than any software deficiency. Is that on the iPhone or on the iMac (I haven't used it on the computer, but the link you originally posted was about that). I'm running the iOS .4 public beta right now, and the faceid seems even quicker. But, I might have mucked with some settings, such as turning off the attentiveness choice (ie having to look at the camera). OTOH, it seems to ask for my passcode more often. I already have to enter it all day long when I am skiing. But with 5 people in the family, it might just "see" the wrong face too much, and so force needing the passcode. The iPad seems to do the same thing, but with touchid. Presumably because other people push the button on it with the wrong fingerprint, it then wants the code. It's not a big deal, but is one of those times where a "be less secure" setting could be helpful. I put the public beta on it because I wanted to try the "less secure" option of allowing faceid with a mask on. Sadly, right now at least that feature only works with a 12 or 13 (not my 11). Also, my main attraction to it would be if it worked with ski goggles, but I think it said it wouldn't. Oh well. But, that means I have to take a glove off to enter a passcode, just as I would if I were using touchid, since my standard gloves don't have the smartphone touch receptive finger tips. That's a reason to start using the newer gloves, at least on cold days.
|
|