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Post by chinacat on Mar 12, 2022 7:33:01 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Mar 12, 2022 10:19:17 GMT -8
From that article: So there are varying timeframe ideas. A refresh in the fall, pre xmas season, is nice. While Apple years ago got away from releasing Macs at an exact time of the year, it has tended to hit certain timeframes. Though Apple tries to not be tied to the market, I remember one time around 20 years ago where we had a push to get a software update out within the quarter, since it was needed to ship (and thus bill for) a I believe an iMac or iBook update. At my level they didn't talk about wanting/needing the finances that quarter, but the push was there. Speaking of pushes, I don't push my 27" iMac too much, so am not in much of a rush to replace it. More likely would be adding another MBA to the family, upgrading my wife's and giving me a portable unit when I wanted it. Or passing the old one down to replace my youngest daughters Mac Book Pro, which might be over 10 years old now, I think with an old Core2Duo. The mac mini has had a sporadic upgrade cycle, often going years between updates. While personally I would like to see a memory slot or two and an upgradable HD, that doesn't seem to be the direction Apple is going and it's probably not something I or others really need, even if it is something that maybe 5-25% of users would want. What pushed me over to a 27" iMac, instead of a smaller one with an extra monitor, was having the available memory slots. But it's been 2 years and I haven't added any, plus the M1 series uses much faster on-chip memory. Still, thinking back to the L2 cache (or was it L3?) you could add to a G3 Mac, there are times in the past when Apple has done such things. But it's the Mac Pro that could really use a boost, I would think. The Mac Studio's seem amazingly speedy! But if there are very high end users that want even more, and are willing to pay even more, then I'm sure Apple is working on making that happen. And even if that doesn't need to be tied to the xmas season, it would be great if they came out in '22!
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Post by eastbaybob on Mar 12, 2022 11:01:32 GMT -8
I have a 2013 27" iMac that I was hoping to replace. So with no new 27" iMac, no new Mac Mini, the new Studio is overkill for my needs. I have the 3 terabyte HD now, if I bought a Mac mini with 512 gigs, would an external solid state HD be equivalent to having an internal drive? My iMac has 16 gigs of memory and I am always running out. I don't know how memory works with the M1. Would 8 gigs of ram be enough to run Safari, Apple Music, Photos or would I need to go with 16 gigs?
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Post by ono on Mar 12, 2022 13:03:38 GMT -8
A current Mac mini M1 8/512 or 16/512 will be lightning quick compared to your 2013 iMac. A MacBook Air M1 with an external monitor could work too. Sure there'll be an updated Mac mini before long, maybe with an M2, even faster internal storage, and more ports, but why wait? My MacBook Air M1 8/256 (only 7 core GPU option, not 8) with Unified memory and 12.2.1 works very well; better than previous Intel and macOS. My previous MacBook was a 2015 MacBook Pro 16G/512G, an aftermarket faster than Apple SSD. I don't do much photo management or photo editing, nor video editing. My use, concurrently: Safari and Microsoft Edge browsers, Outlook mail app, Excel (2 worksheets), Stocks app, a VPN client, Music, Calendar, Cookie, Messages, HoudahSpot. Apple News app can take up a surprising amount of RAM. I rarely run into Memory Pressure = yellow and = red only when a particular Safari tab has a bad behaving website open, or Apple News on a particular article. (With my 2015 MacBook Pro 16G, I occasionally would see yellow.) 8GB should be fine. 16G will be more than enough, and that's not bad. Go with a 16G/512 or 16/1TB and you should be set! I sort of wish I had gone with 512G storage, for when I was having Outlook mail search issues when 12.0.1 was introduced which broke Spotlight which Outlook uses. I had to offload something to try alternate mail programs; both apps use 40GB+ of storage/ea. Apple and Microsoft fixed this after a month or so. A classic spindle hard drive will be much, much slower than an external SSD. How much of the external 3TB hard drive do you use? If it's used for archived photo libraries and such, then it may be fast enough. Try it. You can always migrate from your 3TB HD to an external SSD. An external SSD will be measurably slower than the internal SSD, but maybe not be noticeable in use. Maybe add an external 512G Thunderbolt (faster than USB 3) drive and continue using your 3TB HD? PS: If your 2013 internal storage is not flash SSD, and you decide to keep it for any amount of time, consider upgrading to an SSD as your main startup drive either internal or external.
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2022 13:47:50 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2022 14:01:52 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Mar 12, 2022 14:11:24 GMT -8
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Post by eastbaybob on Mar 12, 2022 15:25:48 GMT -8
Thanks Ono, I may wait a little longer to see if they will release a new Mac mini. If not I will probably go with the 8 gig ram with 512 HD and add external SSD. I don't use that many apps, I use Photo and Apple Music and Qobuz so most of my photos and music are in iCloud. My 2013 is good except for running out of memory so I may possibly hold on to it for another year to get the new Mac mini. I listen to a lot of music on my computer so it would be nice to have a new Mac to take advantage of Spatial and Atmos music with Apple Music
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Post by chinacat on Mar 13, 2022 5:11:55 GMT -8
Dave, didn’t see any mention of Apple in your last two posts. Yes, I know that economic factors affect our favorite fruit company, but straight out political posts tend to stir up disagreements here.
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2022 6:38:17 GMT -8
Dave, didn’t see any mention of Apple in your last two posts. Yes, I know that economic factors affect our favorite fruit company, but straight out political posts tend to stir up disagreements here. Then I suggest you move it or delete it. It may not have value to you but there are those here that may find it quite valuable. It’s your call.
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Post by chinacat on Mar 13, 2022 6:54:06 GMT -8
Dave, didn’t see any mention of Apple in your last two posts. Yes, I know that economic factors affect our favorite fruit company, but straight out political posts tend to stir up disagreements here. Then I suggest you move it or delete it. It may not have value to you but there are those here that may find it quite valuable. It’s your call. So your response is that the agreed upon guidelines for posts in this forum can be freely ignored, and that it is the responsibility of the mods to rectify your indiscretion? I’ve made my opinion clear, and invite the other mods to chime in.
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Post by chinacat on Mar 13, 2022 7:32:13 GMT -8
Dave, didn’t see any mention of Apple in your last two posts. Yes, I know that economic factors affect our favorite fruit company, but straight out political posts tend to stir up disagreements here. Then I suggest you move it or delete it. It may not have value to you but there are those here that may find it quite valuable. It’s your call. Done
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Post by chinacat on Mar 13, 2022 7:47:08 GMT -8
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Post by Ted on Mar 13, 2022 8:01:58 GMT -8
It looks like Apple may be ready to leapfrog its own leapfrog re chip development. The next Ms in the family may be stacked as well as end-joined. Check out this speculative, but highly plausible video. Intel and AMD, beware... www.ped30.com/2022/03/13/apple-silicon-roadmap-macpro/
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Post by hledgard on Mar 13, 2022 9:25:50 GMT -8
From my perspective, the level of political posts has certainly gone down considerably from the past. Also, mentioning an issue, not a person, to me is less political.
And I certainly appreciate what the mods do.
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