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Post by chinacat on Apr 29, 2022 20:35:12 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 30, 2022 8:23:31 GMT -8
It says both that the app hasn't been updated in at least 3 years, and that it gets no or few downloads per year. My first Macintosh application was "And the winning ticket...", a small shareware application I wrote nearly 25 years ago that would draw random raffle tickets if you gave it a range. At that time you would upload it to a couple shareware sites, and just wait for the money to pour in. I also got it on a couple big distributed CDs, like AMUG and BMUG (Arizona Macintosh Users Group and Berkley Macintosh Users Group). I never updated it (it would have been back at the time around Mac OS 8.6 maybe). A few people sent in shareware checks of $12 or whatever, but I think it was in the range of 2-5 people. I'm not sure if I ever checked to see if it was carbon compliant so it could run on classic. I think I got an email or two about that. But it was just a fun little challenge, rather than a business venture. iOS seems to have changed a whole lot more. But if 3 years isn't reasonable, then what is? 5 years? I have an app or two on my iPhone that tries to open, and then crashes out. Not everything works forever. OTOH, I wrote a command line based options application about 20 years ago that runs on Unix. Maybe 8-10 pages of code, to take the options data from CBOE and trim it down to a short list of things I might be interested in. Aside from the trial date timeout, it should just keep on running even though I haven't used it in years. Some things keep on ticking for a long time. You hope your refrigerator or heater are that way, though both of ours were taken out by a brownout or power surge. But most of the time the fix is pretty easy and cheap, even if it takes some time to track it down. A 24V power transformer for $20 and a compressor board for $100 is pretty good, instead of tossing everything and buying a new boiler and new refrigerator.
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 30, 2022 8:49:24 GMT -8
Amazon is an interesting beast. Ideally it is the one stop shop that has everything. Like any store that has a lot of stuff, a problem becomes finding it, but that's something they can control. OTOH, they have to worry about cheap or knockoff items that could cause people to move away from Amazon, and fake reviews that cause people to buy cheap or knockoff items.
But then there is the whole shipping thing. Can they get the item to me, when they said they would, and in good condition? And efficiently too, since adding on too much cost will drive people away?
It seems they have in-housed a huge portion of their shipping, which gives them control on this. But there are still some things that they choose to go with USPS on. And maybe it is better in other places, but our USPS has gotten spottier and spottier. We just never know when we are going to get something. The easy timestamp item is our weekly ad bundle, which should arrive Tuesday afternoon just before the new ad starts on Wednesday. And normally we get it on Tuesday or Wednesday. This week it was on Friday. It's not a perfect example, as maybe that's not their fault, a printing delay or something. But it does give some sense of variability on mail delivery.
I have a 24 volt power transformer on its way, to get our boiler working. On your heater you generally have one of these to step down your power, which it sends to your thermostat. The thermostat has a relay that controls this power, so when it decides you want heat, it completes the circuit so that 24v is coming back too, and then the heater turns on. Using lower voltage, it is allowed to run through the smaller thermostat wire without much electrical worry. On a boiler this also runs the water valves.
Newer home automation stuff, like a wifi thermostat or a doorbell cam, also use this. From the reviews, that's why most people are buying them.
Anyways, mine was supposed to show up last night, and I was even thinking about taking it to the other house and installing it last night, to get the heat back up for painting there. Most paints want it above 50. It's down to 40 downstairs, since the wood stove doesn't do a good job of heating downstairs.
All that said, the idea of Just In Time ordering is that you can get your items quickly, and expect when you'll get them. While our Radio Shack closed a decade ago, I could have drove down to the bigger cities and found one, or scavenged a temporary fix off of something. But why bother, when it is supposed to arrive within 2 days?
Until it doesn't show up when they said it would. And it makes one rethink ordering anything you need in a timely manner in the future.
Amazon can be a good resource. But sometimes shipping, even if it is the fault of one of their 3rd party shippers, looks bad on them.
As far as Apple, it's these sort of things that are outside of their direct control that they need to watch out for. Maybe that's quality or consistency of a part. Maybe that is the wireless carriers. Or maybe it's the internet providers, the link to making streaming work. Just as this week Apple, and then the investing community, is worried about supply of parts and assembled devices. There's always something.
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Post by JDSoCal on Apr 30, 2022 13:07:49 GMT -8
We all think of Amazon as a retailer, but that seems to have plateaued in terms of growth (they don't seem to be able or willing to become a worldwide retailer?), and now cloud is their growth sector. But they "only" had 37% AWS growth (and AWS is like 15% of their total biz) and lost money last quarter and guided for a loss in June quarter. WTF are they doing over there?
Honestly I'd be furious as a stockholder that they decided to revert to money losing "we're just a startup" mode. WS seems done with that game. Actually I'm furious as an AMZN put seller. How to Lose Money in a Dominant Market Position, by Jeff Bezos.
Speaking of just in time, did anyone hear the genius analyst trying to talk Tim out of just-in-time inventory? Might as well try to talk Tim out of being gay. Good grief, these analysts really are idjuts. I recently posted an article by Matt Levine of Bloomberg that their job is really as a dating service between wealthy clients and CEOs and CFO's, not be predictive Kreskin's. Not that I am opposed to the average price target of 192.70.
Let's hope now that we are out of the Generals' earning season, we can get some exhaling in the market...
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Post by Luckychoices on Apr 30, 2022 13:22:08 GMT -8
AAPL was down -3.66% at yesterday's close, and this after Apple had after a pretty decent earnings report the day before. What's going on? Should long-term AAPL investors be worried? The comment I attached below, from a person responding to a Seeking Alpha article titled, "Apple: Solid Q2 Not Good Enough" is well worth reading, IMO. Spoiler alert: His opinion is that, in the current market, traders rule...yesterday was "just traders doing their thing"…and I agree.
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Post by 4aapl on Apr 30, 2022 15:49:54 GMT -8
The comment I attached below, from a person responding to a Seeking Alpha article titled, "Apple: Solid Q2 Not Good Enough" is well worth reading, IMO. Spoiler alert: His opinion is that, in the current market, traders rule...and yesterday was "just traders doing their thing"…and I agree. View AttachmentHe's right, that was long winded, considering AAPL matched the S&P, and beat the Nasdaq. In a world where relativity is all that matters, AAPL was net zero. Thus earnings didn't matter, on the 1 day compare.
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Post by Luckychoices on Apr 30, 2022 17:01:03 GMT -8
The comment I attached below, from a person responding to a Seeking Alpha article titled, "Apple: Solid Q2 Not Good Enough" is well worth reading, IMO. Spoiler alert: His opinion is that, in the current market, traders rule...and yesterday was "just traders doing their thing"…and I agree. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> He's right, that was long winded, considering AAPL matched the S&P, and beat the Nasdaq. In a world where relativity is all that matters, AAPL was net zero. Thus earnings didn't matter, on the 1 day compare. Really? I know he apologized for his long-winded point but I found it read pretty quickly and wasn't overly wordy, IMO. But after you made that comment, I put his post in a word counter and found it to be only 290 words. It's not unusual for AFB to have posts between 300-500 words so I didn't see it as long-winded. Sorry you did.
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Post by firestorm on May 1, 2022 4:18:00 GMT -8
There is an excellent article in the NYT today about the rise and fall of Jony Ive's influence at Apple. The piece presents Ive's brilliance, as well as his frustration with the way the power structure was changing at Apple: www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/technology/jony-ive-apple-design.html?smid=url-shareI have mixed feelings about Ive's later legacy, yet his idea of the Apple Watch as a fashion accessory, with endless possibilities for personal customization, was brilliant based upon what I've observed of people wearing the watch (mostly young women). It is beautiful and has some cool functionality, but the primary value lies in its coolness factor: the intersection of art and technology. At any rate, the departure of Jony Ive left a big hole in Apple's soul.
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Post by firestorm on May 1, 2022 4:52:13 GMT -8
We all think of Amazon as a retailer, but that seems to have plateaued in terms of growth (they don't seem to be able or willing to become a worldwide retailer?), and now cloud is their growth sector. But they "only" had 37% AWS growth (and AWS is like 15% of their total biz) and lost money last quarter and guided for a loss in June quarter. WTF are they doing over there? A huge share of Amazon's loss was because of their investment in Rivian, whom they hope to have as a delivery truck supplier. I think it is too early to say whether this was a mistaken investment, because it still could be a triumph in the end. I still love the retail side of Amazon: my history shows 25 orders with them over the last 90 days. Most arrive later than I would have expected, but with one exception (a book on slime molds), they did eventually arrive. I detest in-person shopping at local outlets of national chain stores where selection is limited and the experience sucks, so Amazon is perfect for this picky introvert.
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Post by 4aapl on May 1, 2022 7:23:00 GMT -8
He's right, that was long winded, considering AAPL matched the S&P, and beat the Nasdaq. In a world where relativity is all that matters, AAPL was net zero. Thus earnings didn't matter, on the 1 day compare. Really? I know he apologized for his long-winded point but I found it read pretty quickly and wasn't overly wordy, IMO. But after you made that comment, I put his post in a word counter and found it to be only 290 words. It's not unusual for AFB to have posts between 300-500 words so I didn't see it as long-winded. Sorry you did. It was just much longer than it needed to be. AAPL matched or beat the baseline of the S&P and Nasdaq. So postulating about the "drop" being due to short term investors specific to something with Apple/AAPL just isn't needed, since it didn't happen.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2022 9:39:27 GMT -8
There is an excellent article in the NYT today about the rise and fall of Jony Ive's influence at Apple. The piece presents Ive's brilliance, as well as his frustration with the way the power structure was changing at Apple: www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/technology/jony-ive-apple-design.html?smid=url-shareI have mixed feelings about Ive's later legacy, yet his idea of the Apple Watch as a fashion accessory, with endless possibilities for personal customization, was brilliant based upon what I've observed of people wearing the watch (mostly young women). It is beautiful and has some cool functionality, but the primary value lies in its coolness factor: the intersection of art and technology. At any rate, the departure of Jony Ive left a big hole in Apple's soul. And here’s another story about Joey Ive: Why Jony Ive left Apple
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2022 9:49:08 GMT -8
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Post by Luckychoices on May 1, 2022 11:17:56 GMT -8
Really? I know he apologized for his long-winded point but I found it read pretty quickly and wasn't overly wordy, IMO. But after you made that comment, I put his post in a word counter and found it to be only 290 words. It's not unusual for AFB to have posts between 300-500 words so I didn't see it as long-winded. Sorry you did. It was just much longer than it needed to be. AAPL matched or beat the baseline of the S&P and Nasdaq. So postulating about the "drop" being due to short term investors specific to something with Apple/AAPL just isn't needed, since it didn't happen. Well, he posted his *opinion* about how traders affects AAPL and some other stocks which are heavily traded...and I agree with him. ========= " Traders rule the market. Once again, for emphasis, traders rule the market. This was strictly a "Buy the Rumor, Sell the News" event. Notice the stock went up better than 4.5% today before the report? Traders got in early today and ran up the price, betting the earnings report would be good. It was - so they'll hold and move to the CC. If the CC has all good news, they'll hold into the next few days and bank the pop (yes, by selling). If, however, the CC has any bad news, they'll immediately sell and try to bank today's run-up. That's what happened today."========= Members of AFB have been coming to this site for almost 10 years and, IMO, they come here primarily for two things, information and discussion of that information. There are other reasons, camaraderie with other AAPL investors, etc., but certainly those two would be ranked pretty highly. You replied that since "AAPL matched or beat the baseline of the S&P and Nasdaq", he was incorrect in his *opinion*...and that's what many times makes a discussion...a difference of opinion. But since correlation doesn't imply causation, and since you feel folks trading AAPL didn't cause or contribute to an $8.34 difference between the high of the day($165.99) and the market close($157.65), what's your opinion about what caused AAPL to fluctuate between those extremes on Friday?
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Post by Luckychoices on May 1, 2022 11:35:41 GMT -8
Interesting article, and even more reason to be excited for Apple's future success. I enjoyed the comments...especially this one: Judging from the 5 likes, many of PED's subscribers appreciated it as well.
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Post by Luckychoices on May 1, 2022 14:57:52 GMT -8
I don't find much in the two quotes I've enclosed below with which I disagree...but I certainly welcome feedback from those who do. Warren Buffett Blasts Stock Market Gambling Casino, Loads Up on Energy SharesAt his first annual in-person meeting in three years, Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger offered some words of caution on stock market poker chips. Warren Buffett Blasts Stock Market Gambling Casino, Loads Up on Energy Shares“It’s a gambling parlor,” Mr. Buffett said Saturday of the markets over the past few years.
“I don’t think we ever had anything quite like we have now in terms of the volumes of pure gambling activity going on daily,” Mr. Munger said. “It’s not pretty.”
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Post by 4aapl on May 1, 2022 15:22:02 GMT -8
You replied that since "AAPL matched or beat the baseline of the S&P and Nasdaq", he was incorrect in his *opinion*...and that's what many times makes a discussion...a difference of opinion. But since correlation doesn't imply causation, and since you feel folks trading AAPL didn't cause or contribute to an $8.34 difference between the high of the day($165.99) and the market close($157.65), what's your opinion about what caused AAPL to fluctuate between those extremes on Friday? It's like asking why someone was speeding, after he was late leaving work, only to find out that he matched everyone else's speed. Maybe there was a little variation at first, but then he fell in line. Asking why the whole market went down by that much is a completely different question, and a valid thing to wonder about. Especially since it went up a bunch one day, and then down a bunch the next. Take a look at the chart. AAPL was ahead of the market for the first 2.5 hours, but for the final 4 hours of the market it was really exactly the same. Nearly exactly matching the S&P 500 pretty much says that AAPL was behaving on overall economic news, rather than Apple specific news. AAPL daily chart vs Nasdaq vs S&PI just don't see any reason to make it more complicated than that, while at the same time realizing that there are lots of variables and maybe something cancels out something else. Maybe there was a +2% movement due to positive earnings, but a -2% movement due to these theorized traders reactions, and half of them didn't show up until noon so AAPL was ahead of the game for a while. Sound plausible? But is it accurate? It is all just opinions and guesses. I'm just surprised someone would go to the trouble of making a somewhat complex guess, when AAPL's net daily movement, and much of the the intraday action, just matched the indexes. It really doesn't seem like it had much to do with what was expected or then said at the Apple Conference Call, the day earlier.
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Post by JDSoCal on May 2, 2022 7:07:33 GMT -8
We all think of Amazon as a retailer, but that seems to have plateaued in terms of growth (they don't seem to be able or willing to become a worldwide retailer?), and now cloud is their growth sector. But they "only" had 37% AWS growth (and AWS is like 15% of their total biz) and lost money last quarter and guided for a loss in June quarter. WTF are they doing over there? A huge share of Amazon's loss was because of their investment in Rivian, whom they hope to have as a delivery truck supplier. I think it is too early to say whether this was a mistaken investment, because it still could be a triumph in the end. I still love the retail side of Amazon: my history shows 25 orders with them over the last 90 days. Most arrive later than I would have expected, but with one exception (a book on slime molds), they did eventually arrive. I detest in-person shopping at local outlets of national chain stores where selection is limited and the experience sucks, so Amazon is perfect for this picky introvert. Yeah, saw that Rivian thing, but Amazon also guided for a loss this quarter. It's funny, I couldn't understand why I kept seeing CNBC talking heads saying Rivian is vaporware, but I see them all the time? Am I hallucinating? Turns out, Rivian HQ is in my city...
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