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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 2:09:13 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 2:22:19 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 2:24:40 GMT -8
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Post by CdnPhoto on Jul 1, 2022 4:31:04 GMT -8
Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canucks
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Post by podboy on Jul 1, 2022 4:49:06 GMT -8
Man reading the 2012 Ode to Spreads thread really brought me down memory lane; at the time, I was five months into my investment journey. I enjoyed looking at all the familiar names I remembered involved with the original AFB. I often wondered how many are still invested in AAPL.
2012-2013 were very much doom and gloom. I lost half of my position and was seriously considering selling. I'm very comfortable financially now because I decided to hold. Here's to patience paying off again.
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Post by chinacat on Jul 1, 2022 5:27:45 GMT -8
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Post by firestorm on Jul 1, 2022 9:52:59 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 1, 2022 10:04:30 GMT -8
I didn't see the part about what the 'Good' news may be, except if it was that enough pessimism was in the market to eventually turn it. I was hoping that it was going to be that supply/demand was more even on chips, but I didn't see it. The general part at the bottom of the investors.com article was the safety call, saying you didn't want to be very bullish, but also didn't want to be very bearish. Instead, it said to make your watchlist and reread investing books while thinking about past bear markets. That's the safe call, and a good one if people would blow up otherwise. But it's still lacking, IMO.
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Post by Dave on Jul 2, 2022 1:22:41 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Jul 2, 2022 6:22:31 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 2, 2022 7:50:28 GMT -8
Looks like the LED alert was answered on both PED and 9to5. On the "would you go back", it's more that she would be willing to, not that she wants to. And I think that is important, that there is lots of grey area between black and white, and understanding the thought process of a normal person, instead of someone who has been with Apple for years or even decades. A decade ago when I worked for a small startup making online dev tools for a lesser known programing language, it helped push the idea of browser neutrality to me, while realizing what percentage of one's computer time might be in a browser. From a general user's perspective, it might not matter so much of what browser, or what OS, you are using. The basic functionality is there on all, and even is general in the same place with similar key commands. It becomes like finding the window wiper switch on a car, especially with 3 Toyotas and one Ford, where you know it is there but they do things just a little different. OTOH, there are also the same-brand changes (just as there are iOS changes), where something is just a little different than before. Performance issues (speed of iPhone vs Android) aren't huge, though if Apple wanted they could point out being faster, maybe the screen being better, maybe the battery lasting more years, the iPhone having a longer usable life, and being worth more in the used market after x years. At the same time, there are lots of Androids out there, so the likes of Samsung would pick and choose a couple models that do something better (ie battery life of 24 hrs instead of 16, a bigger screen, a cheaper price, easier to replace the battery). These things matter to some, but really it's the edge cases. For the ~80+% of general users, it just doesn't matter much. Then there's the security issues, with the OS, the stores, the apps, and app tracking. Given how many people use Chrome, gmail, and facebook, it seems like most people just don't care. Sure, they might say they care. But give them a reason to allow tracking, a decision of do they want to allow tracking so they can do such and such, and many will. So then that comes back to "how do you add stickiness"? One is making a better product that lasts longer and is more reliable. Another is to make things easier, but you have to figure out what those are. Login, via FaceID, can be one of those since you use it again and again. Various features of iMessage are also there. But really it's a lot of little things. The problem is that, like her issue with not knowing how to set the alert LED, you might not understand your liking of many of those things until you switch. And this isn't just a quick switch for most people. Normally you keep your new phone for at least a couple years. It's a long process. Strategically, it seems Apple has done a great job in many areas, such as keeping the feeling of being the higher end choice even while being mainstream. But admittedly I am a little too close to this, and it's hard to see the things that Apple doesn't do as well. It would have been good to talk to the relative last week who has an iPhone for work, but sticks with a Galaxy for his main phone. He works in computer security, so I would have liked to hear his thoughts on those things. But it's probably something with the grey area instead of black or white, while giving some other features that he likes.
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Post by mark on Jul 3, 2022 0:42:38 GMT -8
I didn't see the part about what the 'Good' news may be, except if it was that enough pessimism was in the market to eventually turn it. I was hoping that it was going to be that supply/demand was more even on chips, but I didn't see it. The general part at the bottom of the investors.com article was the safety call, saying you didn't want to be very bullish, but also didn't want to be very bearish. Instead, it said to make your watchlist and reread investing books while thinking about past bear markets. That's the safe call, and a good one if people would blow up otherwise. But it's still lacking, IMO. Maybe the good news is that semis are down because the market is expecting a glut in semi products (due to panic overordering recently). If semis are in glut, some supply chain issues get resolved, loosening up the economy somewhat.
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Post by duckpins on Jul 3, 2022 11:36:41 GMT -8
Samsung always had the best OLED screens on the Note which was the best hardware for a phone. Loved the pencil that is put in its place unlike the iPad pencil which always ends up on the floor. Wish Samsung could liscense Apple OS> I tried android and its too deep for me.
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Post by Lstream on Jul 4, 2022 1:56:16 GMT -8
Apple licensing iOS (not Apple OS) would be the worst business decision they could possibly make. It would be a subpar experience considering the close interaction between hardware, services and software that defines the iOS experience. Not to mention that the iPhone and by extension iOS is Apple’s most important product. It is the central player in the overall Apple ecosystem story, which plays a huge role in company valuation.
And they are supposed to hand it over to a knockoff, IP thieving outfit like Samsung? Because Samsung has a supposedly better place to hold a stylus? Not happening. Ever. Thankfully Apple is run by people who would never buy into such crazy, suicidal ideas.
And I’m not even going to touch the notion the Samsung makes the best hardware for a phone. That is nonsense as well.
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