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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 1:19:29 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 1:28:59 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 1:44:01 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 1:45:44 GMT -8
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Post by CdnPhoto on Sept 9, 2022 3:14:22 GMT -8
As mentioned in yesterday's thread, Elon went off after the meeting to pitch a mobile / sat phone with T-Mobile. What happened to NDAs?
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 3:51:24 GMT -8
Unfortunately, if I’m right, he’s the only one around with the satellite’s.
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Post by 4aapl on Sept 9, 2022 6:22:32 GMT -8
As mentioned in yesterday's thread, Elon went off after the meeting to pitch a mobile / sat phone with T-Mobile. What happened to NDAs? I thought an announcement day article said one cell company already had this working, and there are stand-alone devices for sending SOS messages, short texts, or location updates. It's not really a NDA thing, once the thought and especially the ability is out there in the wild. Seems like a cool feature, more useful for some than others, and yet a good "I should have that, just in case" type thing. Our area is still spotty in places, and sometimes we have trail work days where there is no cell coverage, including where we parked on Tuesday. And then I went out a new way, seeing where the dirt road would take me...and got a slow leak in a tire. It worked out fine, even though it was a little nerve racking sitting in stopped traffic for an accident for 45 minutes, on a stretch with a guard rail and no shoulder, and seeing the pressure dropping. But the satellite coverage would have been helpful if it went fully flat on that dirt road, and I needed to let someone know I'd be 30 minutes late while changing out the flat. On the "nice to have that just in case" features, I like seeing that now the full lineup of the Watch has fall and crash detection. I haven't worn a watch since being a competitive runner, but that might be changing soon.
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Post by chinacat on Sept 9, 2022 7:40:07 GMT -8
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Post by JDSoCal on Sept 9, 2022 7:58:01 GMT -8
Unfortunately, if I’m right, he’s the only one around with the satellite’s. I (somewhat) understand Apple wanting to expand the iPhone and Apple Watch to extreme and remote situations, but I would never want to see Apple take on the massive CapEx of actually owning satellites. The beauty of Jobs' iPhone business model was to convince the CellCos to build and maintain and upgrade their extremely expensive networks while iPhone sucks the lion's share of revenues therefrom. It's not like we have to be BFF's with their CEO's to make money. Musk is iconic and gets things done, whatever his eccentricities may be.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Sept 9, 2022 10:31:01 GMT -8
This is a great reversal! Hope it sticks. CPI data for August comes out next week. The best scenario for the market is that inflation has come down sharply and continues to come down in September and beyond… and that cools down Fed’s aggressive stance.
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Post by bud777 on Sept 9, 2022 11:14:52 GMT -8
I think the satellite phone may be a lifesaver, but I am not sure how useful it would be on a 2-3 wek backpacking trip. Maybe If you carry a Biolite stove so you could get your phone charged up enough it would work. I cannot see carrying 20 pounds of batteries or chargers along with my other 80 pounds of light weight gear.
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Post by duckpins on Sept 9, 2022 11:49:44 GMT -8
WITH A full moon coming and Mercury in retrograde maybe the short sellers are the ones who will get a reversal of fortune? Bounce of S and P off 3900 continues. Monday will be interesting./
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Post by JDSoCal on Sept 9, 2022 11:56:57 GMT -8
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 12:12:21 GMT -8
A great way to end the week.
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Post by JDSoCal on Sept 9, 2022 12:21:07 GMT -8
I think the satellite phone may be a lifesaver, but I am not sure how useful it would be on a 2-3 wek backpacking trip. Maybe If you carry a Biolite stove so you could get your phone charged up enough it would work. I cannot see carrying 20 pounds of batteries or chargers along with my other 80 pounds of light weight gear. I have a couple of those portable solar panel chargers that I take to the beach, or fool around with when I am lying by the pool. Very small and fold up and fit in a backpack. Not great for when you're on the move, but they seem to charge iPhones OK when sun is above. Those lithium battery packs are pretty light too. There seem to be a lot of those solar backpacks these days. Haven't tried them, as my daily hikes are too short to need a backpack, now that the dog has passed and I don't need water. I should note, I live close enough to a trailhead to ride my (e-)mountain bike from home to a large wilderness park. I am often well out of range of cell towers, and I ride late afternoon when the sun is low. If I crashed and injured myself, or even broke my bike, as I have done more than once, it would be nice to be able to reach someone as the sun was setting, and the mountain lions were getting hungry. My shoulder has precluded riding of late, but I can see the use case for this Satellite emergency contact for even basic mountain bikers. BTW, today's close fit nicely into pain range.
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Post by 4aapl on Sept 9, 2022 12:46:36 GMT -8
I think the satellite phone may be a lifesaver, but I am not sure how useful it would be on a 2-3 wek backpacking trip. Maybe If you carry a Biolite stove so you could get your phone charged up enough it would work. I cannot see carrying 20 pounds of batteries or chargers along with my other 80 pounds of light weight gear. My wife and her friend were doing the John Muir Trail last year. It's 220 miles, and most people would aim for 2-3 weeks, but it also coincides with part of the PCT, where the thru hikers are out for months. Some have normal phones, but with no cell service for big sections, people keep them off a lot. There are the solar chargers, with or without batteries. But the resupply stations also had chargers. My wife kept hers off when not using it, but would fire it up to take pictures, and didn't have a problem with keeping it charged in between the resupply stops. When we went backpacking this year my 11 did fine on the 3 day trip, and I even ran Strava for the hike out. I think I had it in airplane mode most of the time, but not turned off. I'm constantly amazed by how well my 11's battery does. OTOH, the friends we were with that go on longer trips had a specialty device that let them send texts from the backcountry. I don't expect the iPhone to be the perfect solution for every situation. But it does pretty well.
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Post by Lstream on Sept 9, 2022 12:47:05 GMT -8
Unfortunately, if I’m right, he’s the only one around with the satellite’s. Not sure what this means. Apple is launching with Globalstar. So they have satellites.
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Post by 4aapl on Sept 9, 2022 12:52:57 GMT -8
This is a great reversal! Hope it sticks. CPI data for August comes out next week. The best scenario for the market is that inflation has come down sharply and continues to come down in September and beyond… and that cools down Fed’s aggressive stance. That's probably the best situation in total, but I imagine that the Fed will need to talk the talk of continued efforts to do whatever they have to, right up to the time that they don't do another bump. And even then, they'd say something like "we're going to not raise rates this time, but will continue to look at data to decide if we need to increase rates next month". Doing that will give the most power to the increases they do make, while limiting the need to overshoot. They might still overshoot, but talking it up and holding their stance until the last possible instant would help limit it. We'll see. But that's my guess, which matches what we've seen so far. And that guess is for in the future, after this increase of .5 or .75.
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Post by JDSoCal on Sept 9, 2022 13:11:02 GMT -8
I don't expect the iPhone to be the perfect solution for every situation. But it does pretty well. I can't find the tweet right now, but some analyst/blogger type was opining before the iPhone event that Apple is slowly foraying into the Sat/GPS/extremophile realm and they are currently at base camp, with a whole mountain to climb and plant their flag at some point in the future. In some ways, they are falling short (bandwidth and battery life, at least compared to Garmin's offerings). In others, they are leading (as Gene mentioned, form factor is slim for sat, and integrated into a real cellphone to boot). Just starting out with 14.4 baud modems like this is 1990. But once the satcos are offering broadband speeds? At the very least, some real leverage with the cell/tellcos. Garmin makes a mere $5B in annual revenues, BTW. No idea what FitBit makes (GoogleGobbled), but it's probably ~$2B. All part of Fitness+ features.
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Post by 4aapl on Sept 9, 2022 13:45:23 GMT -8
For those not familiar with the satellite messengers, REI has a few different options. www.rei.com/c/satellite-messengersThe garmin mini 2 for $400 has plans of $15/month, and says battery life is up to 30 days, if set to 30 minute tracking instead of 10 minute, and in mostly clear places. FWIW, the original mini says 50 hours of tracking at 10 minute intervals, so there are some huge changes in power with the 2 generations. And the non-screened Spot options have settings for up to 156 days!!! There really are a variety of use cases out there. One of my bosses at Apple liked using the 7/8's rule, not being too worried about that 8th person's use case. That 5 months of battery life definitely would make it into an edge case. At the same time, I pulled out my old digital watch to go to my son's CC meet. Works fine. How many years ago did I replace the battery? And it has an "always on" screen. Sometimes things just work. Like a simple 1 cell AA flashlight, pulled out of a random box in the garage, still working with a battery that is 20 years old? LED flashlights might be nice, but whether it's the power mosfet or something else, they drain through batteries in ~1.5 years even sitting on the shelf unused. (now I'm the one sounding old) Good to know what's out there. Some of this fall detection and health stuff, between the iPhone and Watch, really help bring in a broad spectrum of users. That older crowd, where the "% of smartphone users" wasn't as high. Apple can continue with the incremental updates and little gems like these added in, even if it isn't as sexy as a whole new device. Garmin and the like are the latest to have some of their cake taken away. It would be interesting to look at the consumer level of Nikon/Canon/etc and see how those are doing, years later. But when is the last time you saw a more normal consumer level video camera, with smart phones out there, even though action cameras have found a good marketshare niche.
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Post by Dave on Sept 9, 2022 14:26:16 GMT -8
Unfortunately, if I’m right, he’s the only one around with the satellite’s. Not sure what this means. Apple is launching with Globalstar. So they have satellites. Thanks Lstream for correcting me on that.
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Post by firestorm on Sept 9, 2022 21:28:37 GMT -8
I think the satellite phone may be a lifesaver, but I am not sure how useful it would be on a 2-3 wek backpacking trip. Maybe If you carry a Biolite stove so you could get your phone charged up enough it would work. I cannot see carrying 20 pounds of batteries or chargers along with my other 80 pounds of light weight gear. I have used a solar charger on backpacking trips, and a friend used one in hiking most of the Appalachian Trail. It is sometimes the only alternative. So far my wife carries a Garmin InReach, which has a longer battery life, but the iPhone would at least be a backup.
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