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Post by aapl on Nov 16, 2023 3:30:19 GMT -8
Will AAPL get to 190 today? Showing a little green in the premarkets: 188.15 +$0.14 (+0.07%)
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Post by zebrum on Nov 16, 2023 5:10:20 GMT -8
190 is only a 1% rise so I'd say definitely! But will probably be back in the 180s during Friday's usual dip.
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Post by CdnPhoto on Nov 16, 2023 6:35:54 GMT -8
Will AAPL get to 190 today? Showing a little green in the premarkets: 188.15 +$0.14 (+0.07%) Done! Broke through $190
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Post by CdnPhoto on Nov 16, 2023 10:40:16 GMT -8
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Post by nwjade on Nov 16, 2023 12:13:28 GMT -8
I'm sure a perceived warming relationship between the US and China is the reason for appl's strength vs the Nasq the last couple of days
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Post by duckpins on Nov 16, 2023 12:41:59 GMT -8
"Apple also reiterates that iMessage is far more secure and privacy-friendly than RCS. iMessage is end-to-end encrypted, and Apple just took that up a notch with Advanced Data Protection for Messages in iCloud. Meanwhile, Apple says that RCS does not currently support encryption that is as strong as iMessage.
Apple’s decision to adopt RCS follows years of pressure from some of its competitors, including Samsung and Google. Until today, the company resisted that pressure and instead doubled down on iMessage. It has, however, rolled out some improvements to the SMS experience between iPhone and Android devices.'
Does this mean that iMessage will no longer exist and the security it affords will be lost to this new standard?
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Post by CdnPhoto on Nov 16, 2023 12:45:08 GMT -8
"Does this mean that iMessage will no longer exist and the security it affords will be lost to this new standard? I'm thinking we still have blue bubbles, and green bubbles for RCS, and maybe grey bubbles for SMS.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 16, 2023 13:47:35 GMT -8
I'm sure a perceived warming relationship between the US and China is the reason for appl's strength vs the Nasq the last couple of days
That's quite a list of attendees, though I don't see any other "magnificent 7" on the list. I guess most at SW, and while Amazon might have fit in there could be other issues. Ahhh, politics. The story said this: Hopefully he is being upfront. AAPL lagged for a day or two, and is now ahead for a day or two. But part of that coincided when other magnificent 7 companies lagged too. It's not quite that clear, but there seems to be some pushes going around of "invest in the 7 that are doing great" vs "those 7 already had great gains, invest in the others for when they catch up". I hadn't paid attention to the magnificent 7 moniker until the Schwab market update and wine tasting we did a few weeks back. The name seems to have a lot more traction over the past month or so, but it does bring the question of what the next 3-6-12 months holds, and if that is a timeframe that the big and profitable companies continue their path, or if this is a time the smaller companies will catch some ground. And if share pricing is looking 6 months ahead, and that profitability push is 12 months out, that could help set up the timing. This next month and 3 months should help give some guidance. Many big products seem near or past their tipping point, whether that is new or used cars, or housing. Apple is somewhat special, both a needed tool and an expensive discretionary, while also having more subscriptions these days to balance slight changes in other product sales. Tiffanies or even holiday spending could give an idea, but nothing is exact. Walmart and Target are trying to be cautiously optimistic (while also pointing out potential slowdowns and trying to keep estimates low (so they can beat them)), though Amazon fits in there too. finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-and-target-see-student-loans-and-higher-interest-rates-weighing-on-holiday-shoppers-153907612.html Trying to guess at the shorter term is tough. We just had the rising tide due to fed interest rate hopes for the coming 6-12 months. Next comes holiday sales guesstimates, which seem almost always positive, and probably are even more weighted than that since a "sales are up (at least in such an such area)" help keep everyone in a good mood and sell more. I think there will be some faltering in new and used autos, and housing, but both could use with some of that. But with Apple, I sometimes worry that in the short to mid term we'll be blindsided by lower sales, since at times we are too close to things. Most of the time Apple manages thru, and they have a great product line out there without any known big production issues. While 18+ months out, things balance out a lot and I don't see any reason to worry, the 0-18 month timeframe is a time that when there isn't an overly strong positive push, a bit of change in the average consume's mindset of slowing an upgrade cycle a little bit could make a big difference. I'm cautiously optimistic too, but can't completely throw a blind eye to the possibility of some short to mid term volatility.
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Post by nwjade on Nov 16, 2023 14:36:47 GMT -8
I'm sure a perceived warming relationship between the US and China is the reason for appl's strength vs the Nasq the last couple of days
That's quite a list of attendees, though I don't see any other "magnificent 7" on the list. I guess most at SW, and while Amazon might have fit in there could be other issues. Ahhh, politics. The story said this: Hopefully he is being upfront. AAPL lagged for a day or two, and is now ahead for a day or two. But part of that coincided when other magnificent 7 companies lagged too. It's not quite that clear, but there seems to be some pushes going around of "invest in the 7 that are doing great" vs "those 7 already had great gains, invest in the others for when they catch up". I hadn't paid attention to the magnificent 7 moniker until the Schwab market update and wine tasting we did a few weeks back. The name seems to have a lot more traction over the past month or so, but it does bring the question of what the next 3-6-12 months holds, and if that is a timeframe that the big and profitable companies continue their path, or if this is a time the smaller companies will catch some ground. And if share pricing is looking 6 months ahead, and that profitability push is 12 months out, that could help set up the timing. This next month and 3 months should help give some guidance. Many big products seem near or past their tipping point, whether that is new or used cars, or housing. Apple is somewhat special, both a needed tool and an expensive discretionary, while also having more subscriptions these days to balance slight changes in other product sales. Tiffanies or even holiday spending could give an idea, but nothing is exact. Walmart and Target are trying to be cautiously optimistic (while also pointing out potential slowdowns and trying to keep estimates low (so they can beat them)), though Amazon fits in there too. finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-and-target-see-student-loans-and-higher-interest-rates-weighing-on-holiday-shoppers-153907612.html Trying to guess at the shorter term is tough. We just had the rising tide due to fed interest rate hopes for the coming 6-12 months. Next comes holiday sales guesstimates, which seem almost always positive, and probably are even more weighted than that since a "sales are up (at least in such an such area)" help keep everyone in a good mood and sell more. I think there will be some faltering in new and used autos, and housing, but both could use with some of that. But with Apple, I sometimes worry that in the short to mid term we'll be blindsided by lower sales, since at times we are too close to things. Most of the time Apple manages thru, and they have a great product line out there without any known big production issues. While 18+ months out, things balance out a lot and I don't see any reason to worry, the 0-18 month timeframe is a time that when there isn't an overly strong positive push, a bit of change in the average consume's mindset of slowing an upgrade cycle a little bit could make a big difference. I'm cautiously optimistic too, but can't completely throw a blind eye to the possibility of some short to mid term volatility. A lot of good points. It feels like if interest rates have peaked and the consumer hangs in there the market can work its way higher til year end. Also there won't be tax loss selling before EOY in the mag7 stocks so first part of Jan 24 perhaps a profit taking pullback?
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Post by aaplcrazie on Nov 16, 2023 16:35:08 GMT -8
Anyone else use Fidelity? Their Systems got borked today by the Divy apparently, not showing correct balance gains/loss or % for AAPL. Was told once the Dividend "settles" all will be corrected.
Apparently I wasn't the only person who noticed something was off...
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Post by benoir on Nov 16, 2023 16:38:29 GMT -8
Will AAPL get to 190 today? Showing a little green in the premarkets: 188.15 +$0.14 (+0.07%) yes.. if the after-hours count
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Post by coma on Nov 16, 2023 17:01:17 GMT -8
Anyone else use Fidelity? Their Systems got borked today by the Divy apparently, not showing correct balance gains/loss or % for AAPL. Was told once the Dividend "settles" all will be corrected. Apparently I wasn't the only person who noticed something was off... Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check my accounts and see what's going on.
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Post by aapl on Nov 16, 2023 17:05:54 GMT -8
Will AAPL get to 190 today? Showing a little green in the premarkets: 188.15 +$0.14 (+0.07%) yes.. if the after-hours count I'm happy...it got over 190 enough to trigger my good-till-cancel sell orders in the morning. (replenishing cash for SEPP withdrawals.)
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Post by aapl on Nov 16, 2023 17:08:20 GMT -8
Anyone else use Fidelity? Their Systems got borked today by the Divy apparently, not showing correct balance gains/loss or % for AAPL. Was told once the Dividend "settles" all will be corrected. Apparently I wasn't the only person who noticed something was off... Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check my accounts and see what's going on. I use Fidelity. This happens every quarter for all of my dividend reinvestment stocks and it's a pain.
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Post by Dave on Nov 17, 2023 3:15:14 GMT -8
I'm sure a perceived warming relationship between the US and China is the reason for appl's strength vs the Nasq the last couple of days
Well, I have to agree with President Biden. Hopefully others that have met Xi keep this in mind.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 19, 2023 11:44:11 GMT -8
I'm sure a perceived warming relationship between the US and China is the reason for appl's strength vs the Nasq the last couple of days
Well, I have to agree with President Biden. Hopefully others that have met Xi keep this in mind. I've bite my tongue here for a couple days, trying to find the best way to say this. In the mean time can has had a couple things about this, including that China really isn't a big fan of the "dictator" thing. A quick google search gives what they prefer to use. I'm just a little bugged that this question was even asked. Aside from getting a headline quote, what was really gained from asking this? And what was lost, after seemingly an otherwise productive huge meeting? I had to deal with the media just a tiny bit, though former athletes from my HS team warned me to be careful. Though I happened to be doing fairly well, I tried to push the "it takes a team, and we have a great team" storyline. And that was the truth, that everyone had made great improvements and stepped up the times dramatically. But I had to remember the goals a bit, even if I happened to do well. With that mindset I blame the President too, of not answering it better. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet", but calling someone by a name they don't want used is just name calling. Being the single person at the head of both the government and military when not voted in by the populous might be the same (or similar enough) to being a dictator. But calling someone that when they'd rather you used different terms is at least disrespectful, and not the best thing to do on the heals of a rare but positive meeting of worldwide leaders. As for being open and truthful, not looking at a specific incident but looking at the last 50+ years, I think we can agree that the US President isn't always 100% open and truthful. So I'm bugged by the whole thing. While the current President should have been ready the answer a question like that, I feel the "White House Correspondent" really shouldn't have asked the question at all. There just seems to be too much of a push to make headlines these days, whether that is getting a juicy quote, or the next pic or video to go viral.
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Post by Dave on Nov 20, 2023 3:01:26 GMT -8
Has anyone considered that Xi is proud of his position of dictator. After all, he has worked very hard eliminating his enemies to gain such a position. History is full of examples of people that want to be king, why not dictators. Plus, it’s very possible that Xi was never told about President Biden’s comments as none of Xi’s people were brave enough to risk death. And it’s well known that many of the reporters in the presidential news conferences are given questions to ask the president. This is likely an example. The headlines made were likely intentional.
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Post by 4aapl on Nov 20, 2023 6:23:17 GMT -8
Has anyone considered that Xi is proud of his position of dictator. After all, he has worked very hard eliminating his enemies to gain such a position. History is full of examples of people that want to be king, why not dictators. Plus, it’s very possible that Xi was never told about President Biden’s comments as none of Xi’s people were brave enough to risk death. And it’s well known that many of the reporters in the presidential news conferences are given questions to ask the president. This is likely an example. The headlines made were likely intentional. I wondered that too. In the US many think of Dictator as a bad thing or bad name, but that doesn't mean others don't embrace it or see it in that light. King! CEO, Board President, and Majority Shareholder! But a quick google search had agreement on the naming, Blinken's reaction shows that it is known, and the CNN video showed that China uses a different name, and was blocking the "dictator" videos and comments. That's what they do, a level of censorship that the US doesn't have. That's a different issue, but it does show that no, on the face of it he doesn't really want to be called a dictator. Now maybe Xi himself doesn't really mind, or even gets a kick out of being called a dictator, even if they have to form it correctly for the people of China. But it's a bit like calling someone by their correct name, or their preferred pronunciation of their name, that even if it isn't something you fully understand or agree with, you are being purposefully disrespectful if you know about it and aren't using it correctly. And there is no reason to be disrespectful when both sides have gone to so much trouble to try to come together at least a little bit.
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