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Post by aapl on Jan 18, 2024 5:24:07 GMT -8
AAPL is very green in the premarkets: 186.63 +$3.95 (+2.16%)
Maybe due to an upgrade by Bank of America but more likely due to you can't keep a balloon underwater forever. And don't forget to set an 7:56am alarm for ordering your Apple Vision Pro tomorrow. And using the Apple Store iOS app is the best way to order and be near the front of the line.
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Post by ono on Jan 18, 2024 5:27:34 GMT -8
TSMC said it expects its full-year revenue to grow in the low-to-mid- 20 percentage range.
American depositary receipts of TSMC were up 8.1% in premarket trading on Thursday. Nvidia was up 2.2% and Apple was up 2.2%.
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Post by chinacat on Jan 18, 2024 6:32:08 GMT -8
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Post by ems on Jan 18, 2024 8:34:46 GMT -8
Nice to see the blood Oxygen thing has been skirted, at least temporarily. Given that it’s just a firmware change, it should be possible to reenable it once things get settled. By then, though, probably the next generation of watches will be out, so ultimately it should end up being a non-issue hopefully.
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 10:04:35 GMT -8
CdnPhoto is going to be exploring the world for most of February.
He and aapl have been starting all of the daily and weekend threads since late November, and he has asked if others can help out while he is traveling.
It's a pretty easy task, and there are almost no requirements, though it is helpful to update the post subject line with the closing price and stats.
aapl has been starting it on Tuesdays and Thursdays, which works well with his schedule. If people want to sign up for specific days, that works fine. But another choice is to just drop on by, and if the thread hasn't been started yet, just go ahead and start it.
Occasionally we have 2 threads started. To keep it simple we just end up using whichever one was posted first, and a moderator can merge the two threads so that all of the posts are together.
Thanks everyone! May the VisionPro ordering go well, and today's uptrend continue.
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 11:29:08 GMT -8
This article is on someone's experience on the Mac team in the 6 months leading up to its release: www.yahoo.com/tech/worked-steve-jobs-software-engineer-100036382.htmlFor anyone who has been at multiple companies or been on multiple teams, I think we can general look back and see how some worked better than others. Part of what she talks about is the shared goals, and that helped get people to push forward and beyond.
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Post by Dave on Jan 18, 2024 11:45:01 GMT -8
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Post by pauls on Jan 18, 2024 12:02:23 GMT -8
I'm seriously on the fence about waking up at 5 am and trying to grab a Vision Pro. It is very hard to justify....I don't 'game', I already have an 'immersive' 10' screen HD projector system for movies and TV, with 7 channel surround. I'm intrigued by the 3d content being promised. I'm intrigued by the spatial video and photos.
I've always been intrigued by what my imagination tells me could be made possible by AR....but it's not clear that at this stage, any of the things I imagine are ready to experience. For instance-- I would like to be able to walk some property I own and see it in mixed reality....the real world (forest), but with a lidar created de-forested overlay. I can already 'cruise' around the property via USGS lidar maps, via my laptop, allowing my to see what the terrain really exists of, despite all the trees and ground cover of the forest. Likewise, it would be cool to virtually visit and explore other known environments, but in a different perspective-- such as a city, but in a different era, for instance. But these types of experiences aren't being promised, not quite yet...
I told myself that if our AAPL shares got a bump on this final week of decision making, that I should just jump in and order one. As a long-time shareholder, the $3500 cost shouldn't be a huge concern. If I had to travel for a job, it would be a no-brainer.
That's a long way of saying that I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO! Are any others on the fence, especially on a day when most of us are up many Vision Pros on long-held shares?
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Post by dc930 on Jan 18, 2024 12:51:43 GMT -8
That's a long way of saying that I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO! Are any others on the fence, especially on a day when most of us are up many Vision Pros on long-held shares? The only 1st gen product I have purchased as the iPad. At the time it was great but you may recall within a year or two the 2nd gen came out that was so much lighter and faster. Put me down for the wait and see group. Would love to “borrow” a friend’s though!
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 13:39:31 GMT -8
Nice move by AAPL today! Looking at options, a bunch of puts just got crushed, like the weekly 180's losing 38 cents to be priced at just a penny. But some of those calls flew higher today. Tomorrow should be interesting, but the calls and puts make it look like exceeding 190 at close tomorrow will be less likely. finance.yahoo.com/quote/AAPL/options?p=AAPLI wonder how much of today's push was due to trending down for so many days, how much was the price upgrade, and how much was that Watches will still be available in the US, even if software limited if bought direct from Apple. FWIW, in looking at the TMF page, they listed the 5 year overall return and annualized return. 36%! Sometimes I forget how well AAPL has continued to do even in recent years.
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Post by pauls on Jan 18, 2024 13:50:13 GMT -8
That's a long way of saying that I DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO! Are any others on the fence, especially on a day when most of us are up many Vision Pros on long-held shares? The only 1st gen product I have purchased as the iPad. At the time it was great but you may recall within a year or two the 2nd gen came out that was so much lighter and faster. Put me down for the wait and see group. Would love to “borrow” a friend’s thought! Wise words. I've been first day/first gen every product since the first iPod, including the first iPhone which is when I finally had the confidence to start buying Apple shares. But I love the AirPods, AirPods pro, several versions of iPads including the first, and until the last couple years upgraded iPhones on the yearly upgrade plan (but currently have an iPhone 15 max, so I'm all set for Spatial Videos!). I'll sleep on it. I'm awake by 5 most mornings, anyway!
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Post by Luckychoices on Jan 18, 2024 15:46:44 GMT -8
The only 1st gen product I have purchased as the iPad. At the time it was great but you may recall within a year or two the 2nd gen came out that was so much lighter and faster. Put me down for the wait and see group. Would love to “borrow” a friend’s thought! Wise words. I've been first day/first gen every product since the first iPod, including the first iPhone which is when I finally had the confidence to start buying Apple shares. But I love the AirPods, AirPods pro, several versions of iPads including the first, and until the last couple years upgraded iPhones on the yearly upgrade plan (but currently have an iPhone 15 max, so I'm all set for Spatial Videos!). I'll sleep on it. I'm awake by 5 most mornings, anyway! I'm *not* "awake by 5 most mornings"...but I will be tomorrow! Your earlier comment, "As a long-time shareholder, the $3500 cost shouldn't be a huge concern." says it all, IMO. As shareholders who love to photograph wildlife, my wife and I have spent as much and more on cameras, lenses and travel...so we'll be trying to pick up *two* tomorrow morning. Will the later models in a year or two be better and less expensive? Without a doubt...but I want to experience what's caused such over-the-top reviews from those who have tried the AVP...and I want that experience ASAP. 😎
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Post by pauls on Jan 18, 2024 16:12:46 GMT -8
I'm *not* "awake by 5 most mornings"...but I will be tomorrow! Your earlier comment, "As a long-time shareholder, the $3500 cost shouldn't be a huge concern." says it all, IMO. As shareholders who love to photograph wildlife, my wife and I have spent as much and more on cameras, lenses and travel...so we'll be trying to pick up *two* tomorrow morning. Will the later models in a year or two be better and less expensive? Without a doubt...but I want to experience what's caused such over-the-top reviews from those who have tried the AVP...and I want that experience ASAP. 😎 Love it!
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Post by dc930 on Jan 18, 2024 16:30:01 GMT -8
Can’t wait to hear the AFB reviews! New Apple product categories don’t come around very often!
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Post by macster on Jan 18, 2024 17:35:22 GMT -8
For those preordering the store has info that you need to be prepared for.
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Post by crispin on Jan 18, 2024 17:57:44 GMT -8
Currently living in New Zealand all I can do is look on with envy as the AVP is rolled out in my home country. If I were still in NYC there's no question I'd be standing with my fistful of cash in front of the Apple Store. After all, as a 20+ year AAPL investor I believe in doing my research and due diligence, and I think most would agree it sounds way cooler than a spreadsheet! ; )
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 18:31:02 GMT -8
Currently living in New Zealand all I can do is look on with envy as the AVP is rolled out in my home country. If I were still in NYC there's no question I'd be standing with my fistful of cash in front of the Apple Store. After all, as a 20+ year AAPL investor I believe in doing my research and due diligence, and I think most would agree it sounds way cooler than a spreadsheet! ; ) LOL! I'm seeing a business model here. Of course the easy one is buying for others, but that's already done by so many, being flown in to Singapore or China as a whole. Or just on Ebay. But thinking of Rent the Runway or Netflix, I bet there is a lucrative opportunity there of picking one up, and then renting it out by the week. And while it would work in our little enclave, I bet there are a bunch of places this would work too, of people just begging to try out the latest and greatest, even if they don't own it yet. Depending on the availability, you could even add a "keep it" price. And unlike the Willians Sonoma CEO, I don't think it would take AI level computing to calculate out a price that would work. And at the same time our location has the potential target audience of high end vacationers. It's not something I need the hassle of right now. But my son has done well working at a restaurant, and can drive. Maybe he is looking for a side hustle, that is a bit more exciting and lucrative than renting out a log splitter.
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Post by crispin on Jan 18, 2024 19:33:40 GMT -8
The question I have is around the prescription lenses and how practical is it for multiple people to share the same AVP (assuming many/most people over the age of 30 require some corrective eyewear). I guess I'll have to wait for some reviewers to dig into that question. In the meantime I'll wait for news on the international rollout schedule... Currently living in New Zealand all I can do is look on with envy as the AVP is rolled out in my home country. If I were still in NYC there's no question I'd be standing with my fistful of cash in front of the Apple Store. After all, as a 20+ year AAPL investor I believe in doing my research and due diligence, and I think most would agree it sounds way cooler than a spreadsheet! ; ) LOL! I'm seeing a business model here. Of course the easy one is buying for others, but that's already done by so many, being flown in to Singapore or China as a whole. Or just on Ebay. But thinking of Rent the Runway or Netflix, I bet there is a lucrative opportunity there of picking one up, and then renting it out by the week. And while it would work in our little enclave, I bet there are a bunch of places this would work too, of people just begging to try out the latest and greatest, even if they don't own it yet. Depending on the availability, you could even add a "keep it" price. And unlike the Willians Sonoma CEO, I don't think it would take AI level computing to calculate out a price that would work. And at the same time our location has the potential target audience of high end vacationers. It's not something I need the hassle of right now. But my son has done well working at a restaurant, and can drive. Maybe he is looking for a side hustle, that is a bit more exciting and lucrative than renting out a log splitter.
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 21:09:42 GMT -8
The question I have is around the prescription lenses and how practical is it for multiple people to share the same AVP (assuming many/most people over the age of 30 require some corrective eyewear). I guess I'll have to wait for some reviewers to dig into that question. In the meantime I'll wait for news on the international rollout schedule... I think it depends, but I'll have to dig in and see. There is the face shape, that it has the app scan to see. But there potentially is the prescription lens part of it. I don't have a good guess as to what percent of users need corrective lenses, and I'm sure it depends on what you are doing. My wife has had contacts most of her life, but both her and I are getting to the point where we need reading glasses, especially in lower light. I remember only 5 years ago that we thought it was funny to see our older friend from school having to hold her iPhone out as far as she could. Now, at 48, we are doing the same thing. I'd think that it would be similar to preferences that people have, where they might not bother putting on glasses for watching a movie or even many things, but might put them on for reading, especially at the end of the day in lower light situations. So media immersion or gaming might not matter, but reading or other things with fine detail would benefit from having that correction. For the face shape, part of it is the same as ski goggles, where there are different bridge widths and such. On lower end goggles you just buy them and don't care too much (whereas on swim goggles you can often adjust even at the low end). But start paying more and they list it, which I only just read about since a pair my son got mentioned it. We'll see. It's tempting to pick up a pair, though it would be for the whole family and so seems like there would potentially be the same fitting issues. But though my son was interested and said a YouTuber he follows will be buying a pair right away, he then said he didn't really think it would be worth it. It's always hard to know exactly where they will stand on things like this, so that was interesting to hear.
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Post by 4aapl on Jan 18, 2024 21:42:46 GMT -8
In looking at the few of the developer pages, this one really laid out the best practices, things that many people think about but sometimes forget. I liked that it was prioritizing privacy, being careful with CPU usage, careful with movements (what was listed earlier today, of being too immersive), testing, CI, and a slew of other things. developer.apple.com/visionos/planning/It should be a good product. It will be interesting to see how well supply keeps up with demand. My son claimed Apple does so much better than Sony with supply, not having long waits like Sony did with the PS5, and going into the same conversations of people buying out all of the stock when it does show up at a store, and reselling it for a higher price or using it for a few months and then selling it for the same price. Apparently the iPhone supply issues, especially on the Pro models, haven't been enough to stick around negatively with the people he follows. Good luck out there with the ordering!
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Post by mark on Jan 19, 2024 12:07:59 GMT -8
The question I have is around the prescription lenses and how practical is it for multiple people to share the same AVP (assuming many/most people over the age of 30 require some corrective eyewear). I guess I'll have to wait for some reviewers to dig into that question. In the meantime I'll wait for news on the international rollout schedule... It's probably impractical. That's how modern devices seem to be built, as personal devices. For example, iPhones can recognize ONE face, and no more than one face, to unlock. They used to recognize multiple fingerprints (for example, my index finger, my wife's index finger, etc) to unlock.
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Post by incorrigible on Jan 19, 2024 17:17:42 GMT -8
For example, iPhones can recognize ONE face, and no more than one face, to unlock. They used to recognize multiple fingerprints (for example, my index finger, my wife's index finger, etc) to unlock. Not true. My wife's iPhone 14 can be unlocked by her or my face.
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Post by mark on Jan 27, 2024 20:33:34 GMT -8
For example, iPhones can recognize ONE face, and no more than one face, to unlock. They used to recognize multiple fingerprints (for example, my index finger, my wife's index finger, etc) to unlock. Not true. My wife's iPhone 14 can be unlocked by her or my face. Hmmm, I'm only on iPhone 13, maybe that was added in the 14 model?
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Post by CdnPhoto on Jan 28, 2024 6:52:39 GMT -8
Not true. My wife's iPhone 14 can be unlocked by her or my face. Hmmm, I'm only on iPhone 13, maybe that was added in the 14 model? try using "Set up an Alternative Appearance" from "Face ID & Passcode" in Settings
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Post by incorrigible on Jan 29, 2024 5:18:26 GMT -8
try using "Set up an Alternative Appearance" from "Face ID & Passcode" in Settings That's it IIRC.
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Post by mark on Jan 29, 2024 6:40:52 GMT -8
Hmmm, I'm only on iPhone 13, maybe that was added in the 14 model? try using "Set up an Alternative Appearance" from "Face ID & Passcode" in Settings Thanks, I will try it! Somehow I always thought that alternative appearance had something to do with masks. But I see that the mask option is separate and below this option.
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