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Post by aapl on Mar 27, 2024 4:22:52 GMT -8
Apple's up in the premarkets with the rest of the market : $170.37 +$0.66 (+0.39%)
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Post by aapl on Mar 27, 2024 10:23:17 GMT -8
Why is APPL now up 3 dollars on the day? Did someone decide it was a bargain after it went under $170? Is Luca establishing a floor here?
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Post by lulli on Mar 27, 2024 10:34:46 GMT -8
Maybe WWDC announcement? Hints about, and the realization, that Apple is not necessarily "behind" with AI? Also the below on the news feed (but it was early this morning), all may help. I would want a floor here.....
Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) investors are being "way too pessimistic" about the company and that the iPhone maker's stock still has "room to run," according to Eric Jackson. What Happened: EMJ Capital's Jackson expressed surprise about the "hate" that the Apple stock is receiving amid a decline in iPhone sales in China and the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) antitrust lawsuit. "I think investors are being way too pessimistic. Out of all the Mag 7 stocks, after maybe Tesla, Apple is currently the most hated," Jackson said during an interview with CNBC's Last Call. "We've seen this picture before, there have been pullbacks, sometimes a lot sharper pullbacks than what we've seen."
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Post by Luckychoices on Mar 27, 2024 11:13:41 GMT -8
Why is APPL now up 3 dollars on the day? Did someone decide it was a bargain after it went under $170? Is Luca establishing a floor here? This is the way AAPL and a few others looked earlier today. To me it's an indication that anyone who decides to time the market better either be very good or very lucky...and both is better. I'm sure folks who bought NVDA after its dramatic rise are wondering what's going on...as are the folks who sold AAPL and expected it to drop like a rock. I don't think AAPL will drop like a rock and I think NVDA will continue its climb, although not perhaps as dramatically. Any long-term AAPL investor has heard that Apple is doomed many times before. I think we'll see some very interesting announcements in June.
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Post by aapl on Mar 27, 2024 12:11:25 GMT -8
Why is APPL now up 3 dollars on the day? Did someone decide it was a bargain after it went under $170? Is Luca establishing a floor here? This is the way AAPL and a few others looked earlier today. To me it's an indication that anyone who decides to time the market better either be very good or very lucky...and both is better. I'm sure folks who bought NVDA after its dramatic rise are wondering what's going on...as are the folks who sold AAPL and expected it to drop like a rock. I don't think AAPL will drop like a rock and I think NVDA will continue its climb, although not perhaps as dramatically. Any long-term AAPL investor has heard that Apple is doomed many times before. I think we'll see some very interesting announcements in June. Another reason might be the bombshell (to me at least) that Margrethe Vestager dropped at the end of Kara Swisher’s podcast from earlier in the month. Margrethe tells us that she is out of her job at the end of the year. Woo-Hoo. My guess is she takes a job at Spotify.
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Post by davidstevenson on Mar 27, 2024 13:42:51 GMT -8
This is the way AAPL and a few others looked earlier today. To me it's an indication that anyone who decides to time the market better either be very good or very lucky...and both is better. I'm sure folks who bought NVDA after its dramatic rise are wondering what's going on...as are the folks who sold AAPL and expected it to drop like a rock. I don't think AAPL will drop like a rock and I think NVDA will continue its climb, although not perhaps as dramatically. Any long-term AAPL investor has heard that Apple is doomed many times before. I think we'll see some very interesting announcements in June. Another reason might be the bombshell (to me at least) that Margrethe Vestager dropped at the end of Kara Swisher’s podcast from earlier in the month. Margrethe tells us that she is out of her job at the end of the year. Woo-Hoo. My guess is she takes a job at Spotify. Or Samsung, or NBC news: I hear they have an opening.
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Post by ono on Mar 27, 2024 20:47:12 GMT -8
Another reason might be the bombshell (to me at least) that Margrethe Vestager dropped at the end of Kara Swisher’s podcast from earlier in the month. Margrethe tells us that she is out of her job at the end of the year. Woo-Hoo. My guess is she takes a job at Spotify. Or Samsung, or NBC news: I hear they have an opening. Wow. What? Thank you, Very interesting. Any link?
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Post by zzmac on Mar 27, 2024 22:03:49 GMT -8
Can someone explain this to me?
My brother has a cellphone plan with Rogers in Canada (one of the big 3? mobile providers up here) and he is on a plan (I have the same plan) that costs $50 per phone a month and we get 60GB data included. We own our own iphones, no contract. He called them the other day and asked about any 2 year plans that included a new iphone. He was told (and I verified it later) and was told he could get a new iphone 15 ($1129 cdn. value at Apple) for only $22 per month on a 2 year contract and you get to keep the phone after two years. And his monthly rate would also increase to $55 per month. So, $5 a month extra for the plan and an extra $22/month for the phone. So he's really paying an extra $650 for a $1129 phone for a savings of $480(!)
Today when he called them the deal just got lower and his plan stayed the same at $50/month and the iphone 15 now cost just an extra $15/month for two years. So, now he's paying just $360 for a $1129 phone for a savings of $770 for the new phone. And he can sell his old phone to a third party for more savings.
Am I crazy or is Rogers??? Do you think Rogers is doing this as a loss leader or Apple is giving away phones ahead of earnings (or next launch later on) or both? Seems crazy to me just to lock up a customer for 2 years. :-)
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Post by Lstream on Mar 28, 2024 3:18:38 GMT -8
I’m a Rogers customer, and the one thing the carriers conveniently forget to tell you is that these phones are carrier locked. The biggest impact to me is that I’m locked into their ridiculous expensive roaming plans when I travel. Rogers calls it Roam Like Home. Typically $12 to $15 per day, depending on which country. You are unable to use eSims, which are dramatically cheaper.
I was in Turkey last fall for almost 3 weeks. I spent around $20 on an eSim. Compared to $300 Rogers would have charged me. So on that one trip alone, Rogers would have generated additional revenue of $280 from me, because of it being carrier locked. And I travel a bunch. Carrier locking would easily cost me 4 figures annually with all the travel I do.
I’ve cancelled Roam like Home, due to these fees. You do need to be careful though, because you can’t use eSim’s for normal phone calls. So incoming calls can trigger per minute charges. I use Skype for phone calls when I travel, but have been caught a couple of times by these per-minute charges. But I’m still way ahead overall. Skype has per minute calls too, but they are tiny compared to what Rogers charges.
I think this carrier locking thing is one of the reasons they have these phone deals.
EDIT - I don’t think Apple participates financially in these subsidies, so no phone giveaways here.
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Post by zzmac on Mar 28, 2024 6:13:27 GMT -8
How were you locked in if you used a $20 eSim in Turkey?
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Post by zzmac on Mar 28, 2024 6:42:16 GMT -8
I just checked with Rogers and was told carriers are no longer allowed to lock in phones. You can get a new phone with an eSim or a physical sim. You're just locked in for the 2 year plan, not roaming.
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Post by Lstream on Mar 28, 2024 8:32:30 GMT -8
How were you locked in if you used a $20 eSim in Turkey? I’m not. I never bought my phone from Rogers
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Post by Lstream on Mar 28, 2024 8:35:37 GMT -8
I just checked with Rogers and was told carriers are no longer allowed to lock in phones. You can get a new phone with an eSim or a physical sim. You're just locked in for the 2 year plan, not roaming. Thanks. Did not know that. My info is out of date. They like still have an expected value on their exorbitant roaming charges if they keep you or switch you from another carrier. I don’t think the majority of people use eSims.
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Post by mark on Mar 28, 2024 10:30:18 GMT -8
You do need to be careful though, because you can’t use eSim’s for normal phone calls. You can indeed use eSIM for voice calls. You can have the physical SIM with your "home" carrier (let's say Rogers or AT&T or whatever) and use the eSIM overseas (where supported) for a temporary number and data plan. Incoming calls to your "home" number would have roaming charges, of course. But, you might be able to forward your calls to a different number (perhaps your temporary overseas number) for free or for less of a fee. Roaming charges are almost always exorbitant and a huge ripoff. In general, right now, I advise doing the opposite. Use the eSIM (or one of them at least, modern phones have 2 eSIM "slots") for your "home" carrier, and save the physical SIM (some modern phones don't even have a physical SIM anymore, like iPhone 15 sold in the USA) for travel. That's because not every country, and not every carrier, supports eSIM yet. A few months ago, before traveling, I specifically purchased an iPhone 13 over an iPhone 14 because the iPhone 13 (in the USA) is the last model with a physical SIM.
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Post by Lstream on Mar 28, 2024 12:50:36 GMT -8
Hi Mark, Have you tried dedicated eSIM providers like Airalo. They have support in 200 or so countries. They do all the work in figuring out what carrier to use. Often, they support a couple, which can help with coverage. I prefer this approach over getting a physical eSIM when I arrive in a new country. I think there are some advantages to this. 1. I can have connectivity as soon as I land and still on the plane. Just switch SIM’s on the phone, after setting everything at home before I leave. I find this useful in situations like using WhatsApp to communicate with drivers who pick me up and take me to a hotel for example. Needing to get a physical SIM before this communication can happen would present problems for me. iPhones let you have up to 8 SIM’s. Two can be active at a time. 2. I don’t have to deal with the chaos at an airport to buy a physical SIM. More time to do what I want and less time shopping for and installing physical SIM’s 3. I never know how much data I’m going to use, so I can start small and then top up if I need to. This is really convenient if you are getting low on data. It’s dead simple to top up. No need to procure another SIM. I was in some remote places in Turkey as an example. It would have been challenging to buy another physical SIM in some of those places. 4. You can get eSIM’s that work in several different countries. So if you are hopping around Europe for example, you can just get one SIM. Way more convenient. I think Airlo does have some plans that give you an overseas phone number too. Have not tried that. In my world, I don’t do a lot of voice calling anyway. Also, I find that overseas, a lot of people like to talk over WhatsApp anyway. As you can likely tell, I’m a big fan of this whole eSIM thing.
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Post by CdnPhoto on Mar 28, 2024 16:03:24 GMT -8
Hi Mark, Have you tried dedicated eSIM providers like Airalo. They have support in 200 or so countries. They do all the work in figuring out what carrier to use. Often, they support a couple, which can help with coverage. I prefer this approach over getting a physical eSIM when I arrive in a new country. I think there are some advantages to this. 1. I can have connectivity as soon as I land and still on the plane. Just switch SIM’s on the phone, after setting everything at home before I leave. I find this useful in situations like using WhatsApp to communicate with drivers who pick me up and take me to a hotel for example. Needing to get a physical SIM before this communication can happen would present problems for me. iPhones let you have up to 8 SIM’s. Two can be active at a time. 2. I don’t have to deal with the chaos at an airport to buy a physical SIM. More time to do what I want and less time shopping for and installing physical SIM’s 3. I never know how much data I’m going to use, so I can start small and then top up if I need to. This is really convenient if you are getting low on data. It’s dead simple to top up. No need to procure another SIM. I was in some remote places in Turkey as an example. It would have been challenging to buy another physical SIM in some of those places. 4. You can get eSIM’s that work in several different countries. So if you are hopping around Europe for example, you can just get one SIM. Way more convenient. I think Airlo does have some plans that give you an overseas phone number too. Have not tried that. In my world, I don’t do a lot of voice calling anyway. Also, I find that overseas, a lot of people like to talk over WhatsApp anyway. As you can likely tell, I’m a big fan of this whole eSIM thing. I used eSIMS on my recent around the world tour. Most of it was in Asia, so I got an Asia Package. I was in Amsterdam for a day, so I got a small package for the Netherlands. Like LStream, I'm a big fan of eSIMS. I used Nomad for my travels recently, but Airalo is excellent too.
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