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Post by aapl on Jul 19, 2024 2:45:07 GMT -8
Apple is up in the premarkets: 225.34 +$1.16 (+0.52%) Tough day today worldwide for Windows users who have Cloudstrike endpoint protection. (Cloudstrike pushed out a faulty update.) This is going to affect a lot more than the airlines mentioned in this (think banks, railroads...) - Link
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Post by aaplcrazie on Jul 19, 2024 6:07:22 GMT -8
BSOD
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 6:41:50 GMT -8
I leave for a few days, with cell service ending with the stock having just touched the $237 area, and then what happens?
It was a fun 4 day back country camp in Desolation Wilderness, working on a Tahoe Rim Trail section that overlaps with the Pacific Crest Trail. The PCT hikers were flowing through, with this timeframe being nearly entirely hikers that started at the Mexico boarder, and are aiming for the Canada boarder, being 900 miles in so far.
A few had solar panels on their pack, though that group is mostly aiming to be as light and quick as possible, with most going 22-25 miles per day, and 2 claiming 28 or 30 miles a day on their hike days (not counting zero/resupply days). But it was the caddie from OR who was doing the TRT who was more dependent on power (headlight, GPS, phone), had his primary battery bank fail, and felt his secondary was too small. The trail is fairly well marked, and it was light from 5:15 to 9, so really he didn't need any of those. We were headed out so I charged up his bank a little with my small one, but he was planning to cut his trip short if he couldn't buy a full replacement at a camp store in 12 miles.
Sometimes we have a little too much dependency on technology. But it was cool to send my location via satellite, apparently using Find My iPhone. It prompted me to do it when I was off airplane mode for 2-3 hours and didn't have a signal. It was pretty simple, but I don't think the UI told me to keep the iPhone parallel to the ground, which it ended up needing.
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Post by jz on Jul 19, 2024 7:52:23 GMT -8
I leave for a few days, with cell service ending with the stock having just touched the $237 area, and then what happens? It was a fun 4 day back country camp in Desolation Wilderness, working on a Tahoe Rim Trail section that overlaps with the Pacific Crest Trail. The PCT hikers were flowing through, with this timeframe being nearly entirely hikers that started at the Mexico boarder, and are aiming for the Canada boarder, being 900 miles in so far. A few had solar panels on their pack, though that group is mostly aiming to be as light and quick as possible, with most going 22-25 miles per day, and 2 claiming 28 or 30 miles a day on their hike days (not counting zero/resupply days). But it was the caddie from OR who was doing the TRT who was more dependent on power (headlight, GPS, phone), had his primary battery bank fail, and felt his secondary was too small. The trail is fairly well marked, and it was light from 5:15 to 9, so really he didn't need any of those. We were headed out so I charged up his bank a little with my small one, but he was planning to cut his trip short if he couldn't buy a full replacement at a camp store in 12 miles. Sometimes we have a little too much dependency on technology. But it was cool to send my location via satellite, apparently using Find My iPhone. It prompted me to do it when I was off airplane mode for 2-3 hours and didn't have a signal. It was pretty simple, but I don't think the UI told me to keep the iPhone parallel to the ground, which it ended up needing. I'm friends in San Diego with a guy whose trail name is Scout. He has hosted at his home in San Diego 7,000 hikers over the years on their embarkation of the Pacific Coast Trail. Great guy... you familiar with him?
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Post by JDSoCal on Jul 19, 2024 8:29:27 GMT -8
BSODI’m not a marketing guy (in fact, I kid my marketing students as “business major light.”) But if you had a multi-trillion dollar brand, whose failure symbol was known worldwide, would you keep displaying that screen for 30+ years? Type “blue” into a search engine and see what suggestions pop up. BSOD was the first one for me. Microsoft nerds would say that it is an easily recognizable, unambiguous debugging notice. But I think Jobs would say that we don’t want Apple to become associated with such a notorious fail. As usual, tasteless MSFT culture just doesn’t get it.
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 9:56:10 GMT -8
I leave for a few days, with cell service ending with the stock having just touched the $237 area, and then what happens? It was a fun 4 day back country camp in Desolation Wilderness, working on a Tahoe Rim Trail section that overlaps with the Pacific Crest Trail. The PCT hikers were flowing through, with this timeframe being nearly entirely hikers that started at the Mexico boarder, and are aiming for the Canada boarder, being 900 miles in so far. A few had solar panels on their pack, though that group is mostly aiming to be as light and quick as possible, with most going 22-25 miles per day, and 2 claiming 28 or 30 miles a day on their hike days (not counting zero/resupply days). But it was the caddie from OR who was doing the TRT who was more dependent on power (headlight, GPS, phone), had his primary battery bank fail, and felt his secondary was too small. The trail is fairly well marked, and it was light from 5:15 to 9, so really he didn't need any of those. We were headed out so I charged up his bank a little with my small one, but he was planning to cut his trip short if he couldn't buy a full replacement at a camp store in 12 miles. Sometimes we have a little too much dependency on technology. But it was cool to send my location via satellite, apparently using Find My iPhone. It prompted me to do it when I was off airplane mode for 2-3 hours and didn't have a signal. It was pretty simple, but I don't think the UI told me to keep the iPhone parallel to the ground, which it ended up needing. I'm friends in San Diego with a guy whose trail name is Scout. He has hosted at his home in San Diego 7,000 hikers over the years on their embarkation of the Pacific Coast Trail. Great guy... you familiar with him? I don't really follow that sort of thing, but there is a huge subculture there for people planning for any of these long backpacking adventures that I heard about when my wife was planning for the John Muir Trail. And reading Wild, it talked of a person in SoCal that would hang out at a campground and cook food for PCT hikers. And some of their recommendations are widely followed. It seemed like 20% or more of the hikers had my backpack (which my wife bought, after JMT research, first for herself and then for me) from Gossamer Gear. And I actually got a bit confused because so many young women came by wearing the exact same hiking shirt and generally looking the same, that I thought they had come by out work group going the other way that morning. Their PCT tag is normally on the back of the pack, so you don't see it until later, but I swear I could have taken pictures of 5 of them, put them side by side, and they would look like the same woman or at least quintuplets. Likewise, maybe a third of the hikers had a Spot or the larger Garmin product, connected to a backpack strap. This is a group looking to save any part of an ounce while hiking 1900 miles. I bet they had a phone with them, for pictures and occasional communication or maps. Adding even limited messaging to the satellite feature would be huge, for this small group. But the influencer aspect and aspirational goals side of things could widen it to a meaningful group. I was amazed at how many of these people had already hiked so far, were cruising along at a great pace, and had great goals. I found some of the planning my wife did for the JMT (around 220 miles, with lots of elevation but some do it in as little as 14 days) crazy, not only having to plan and send out your food resupplies, but getting as crazy as thinking about how many sheets of toilet paper you would use per day. But I could definitely see the joy of being a trail angel, helping these people out and hearing of some of their stories. And that's part of why I like going out there and doing trail work, improving the trail not just for me, but for all the other trail users. (Yesterday we moved a ~1500 lbs rock into place that is a perfect bench, overlooking Heather lake. It was the perfect rock and really took very little work, but the 4 others I grabbed to help will always remember it, and countless hikers and backpackers will use it daily. Time to add it to some mapping sites) ![](https://i.postimg.cc/wtRhMTKp/IMG-1633-BCC-Bench-smaller.jpg)
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 10:05:52 GMT -8
Gen Z is projected to become the largest, wealthiest generation, according to reportA lot of the expected growth in the coming 6 years is the transfer from student to workforce and the spending increase. My kids are all Gen Z, but only one is hopefully going to be in the full time workforce by then. The hybrid store strategy sounds just like Apple, and maybe a good chunk of that remaining 19% of TikTok dollar sales that isn't on Health or Beauty is on technology (probably not since travel and food are likely big).
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 10:09:03 GMT -8
I'm hesitant to give/blame too much on Options Expiration when open interest volumes seem relatively small, but there are some out there and they might be helping pull AAPL up a little towards $225. I'm not banking on it, but it would be nice to get a little green.
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Post by duckpins on Jul 19, 2024 10:10:39 GMT -8
I don't know what Gen Z wants, but Apple has done well with the stores. Keeping them modern and updated with the newest tech is something Apple needs to do. I do know the Millenials are the wealthiest gen in American history, don't know anyone who bought million dollar starter home a year after getting a job from my gen. 1700 for Taylor Swift tickets, 700 to see some guy kick a ball...a mere bag of shells for the Millenials. 5000 a month rent...and saving for a house. Not bad.
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 10:36:58 GMT -8
I don't know what Gen Z wants, but Apple has done well with the stores. Keeping them modern and updated with the newest tech is something Apple needs to do. I do know the Millenials are the wealthiest gen in American history, don't know anyone who bought million dollar starter home a year after getting a job from my gen. 1700 for Taylor Swift tickets, 700 to see some guy kick a ball...a mere bag of shells for the Millenials. 5000 a month rent...and saving for a house. Not bad. It's easy to think that is the case for everyone, especially if you live in a high income and high cost area. But that really is the exception rather than the rule, right? Stories about Tech or Pharma "Bros" can really skew our opinion, especially if we don't think about it too much. But if you think about all the 20-25 year olds who you interact with or even see for a full day, and take a stab at their salary, you might Think Different. Barista/Uber Driver/Waiter/Cook/Grocer Store Clerk/Delivery Driver/Amazon Warehouse Worker/etc. There's always exceptions (some might break 100k, but 150-200k?), but most of those aren't raking in the big bucks. And then even Software Developers that are at 2nd or 3rd tier companies in non-1st tier locations. It's really just supply/demand, in locations and for skills/effort, ideally. If you want the big bucks, figure out where there is more demand than supply, and what would make you or your work/company desirable, and move. There's lots of examples of timeframes for types of work just in the tech industry in the last 30 years. Just as Big Data was the thing a few years ago, AI is it now, even if the peak supply/demand mismatch might have been a year ago. Some are worried of the likely eventual downsizing, but I could see getting your foot in the door now, switching up a couple times starting in 3-6 months, and either enjoying a 2 year ride or aiming for excellence to get towards the top. That is just wild speculation, but I'd put money on that bet.
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Post by duckpins on Jul 19, 2024 11:04:34 GMT -8
"Stories about Tech or Pharma "Bros" can really skew our opinion, especially if we don't think about it too much. " I live in the Oakland Hills, God preserve me from the criminals running the city, and Millennials buy and rent here near my 247,500 home (1988). I may be the oldest resident. Certainly owned the house as long or close to as long as anyone. It blows my mind to see 5900 rent prices. Of course these are not 2 Uber drivers living together, but it can be one and second spouse or partner who makes really good money. I have seen them come and go. With working out of the house some move to Nashville etc. where for 5 or 600 they can get a mansion in the suburbs which is safe and good for kids. They still work tech out of their abodes. Not bad if you ask me. One neighbor built their own in Nashville for less than 500. 2 kids and totally happy with one working out of the house and the other a civil engineer who can get work anywhere.
Kids should think about these tech jobs and how much they pay. Start programming and learn to talk at about the same age. The people who never grow up and are alienated end up like the Trump shooter who was a Republican supposedly. Nothing makes sense to them. Their friends are on easy street in a few quick years and they are living with Mom with no prospects. Really polarized and unhealthy.
Meanwhile lots of over 220 calls biting the dust on apple and on NVDA over 120- a legion of calls worthless. NVDA below the split price now. Have not looked at AVGO, anyone? I would expect voliatitly now as the gonsteh machers are off to whatever passes for the Borscht Belt these days? Miami, Fuji? Smaller volume coupled with Biden and Trump volatility might make August a downer. Apple needs to stabilize with good earnings. Let's hope jut a couple weeks.
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2024 12:54:38 GMT -8
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Post by 4aapl on Jul 19, 2024 14:17:20 GMT -8
Automation, including automated installation of an update, is great until it isn't. A problem like this shows the need for at least a partially metered update process, and probably a feedback loop post update install to signal that the system came back online. If suddenly less than 90% or 95% of the machines came back online, it would pause or further meter the updates.
But you don't really think about things like that until there is a problem. And Apple updates haven't always been problem free. One article on this one said recovery was not too difficult but was a manual process, of restarting in safe mode, backing out the update, restarting again, and once the new fixed update was out then install it.
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