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Post by rob_london on Dec 4, 2013 23:56:23 GMT -8
Some very good news to wake up to. Apple shares currently up 1.55% in Frankfurt.
9:35 Frankfurt time +2.04%
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 0:34:55 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Dec 5, 2013 0:37:56 GMT -8
Oh it's on now
No one said Apple took the easy road in smartphones, but getting in the door is the important part. Apple has access and that helps both growth potential and that ever-present perception/sentiment problem.
China Mobile initial demand could be insane.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 1:02:08 GMT -8
+$9 in early premarket
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Post by appledoc on Dec 5, 2013 1:57:22 GMT -8
I was wrong ;D
But I'm not chasing here. Too dangerous, especially if we get a ~10 point gap up.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 5, 2013 2:31:02 GMT -8
So how exactly is this going to work? The announcement is suppose to be on the 18th of December but leaks out now. Does AAPL and/or CHL announce before the 18th now? ....or do they stick to the plan? What happens from today until the 18th? Read some posts from late last night and just want to put my two cents in. This news - although anticipated (for years, I might add) - is NOT priced into the stock. There are no analysts who have incorporated this news into their numbers (and probably won't until it's "official"). So there will be estimate adjustments, PT adjustments, etc. -- not to mention that we aren't one of those stocks that has had a stellar year and needs to be sold for massive gains - granted if you are a day-trader/swing-trader you may take some profits - but we are on our way -- even the technical stars are aligned. And don't forget - we aren't even talking about promises TC has made about new products in 2014! Boy -- I'm REALLY enjoying my cup of coffee this morning. And sure, maybe we pull back after a sudden gap but it is only an opportunity to buy more. By the way, JD's words resonate this morning as the stock moved so swiftly last week he kept wondering if someone knew something that was making the stock move like it was jet propelled. He mentioned it dozens of times....something smelled....and he may have been spot on. Interesting or at least fodder for thought. As always, cheers to the longs!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 5, 2013 2:55:23 GMT -8
Phoebes, Somebody always knows something. But so long as I get to share this time, I'm fine.... 2014 is going to be a fun year, I think....
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 5, 2013 3:00:54 GMT -8
Phoebes, Somebody always knows something. But so long as I get to share this time, I'm fine.... 2014 is going to be a fun year, I think.... Agreed .... and hell yeah .... I'll be participating too! Just wish CHL or AAPL would come out and just confirm - damn.
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Post by podboy on Dec 5, 2013 3:17:19 GMT -8
Feels like Christmas came early this year. I wish all of you a happy holiday season.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 5, 2013 5:14:39 GMT -8
Up 9 bucks now.....hilarious to follow some of the twitter exchanges. Some people out of the stock trying to "talk it down" while other folks who are long long blasting back with data points of size of new customer base, likely upgrades, second quarter gross revenue estimates.
Another interesting note on the possible impact on iPad sales down the road for CM customers....sure, if cellular iPad penetration is only 1% of the base! it's 7 million iPads.....
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 5, 2013 5:25:31 GMT -8
There will always be the guys who will try to talk it down and put out FUD....you can already hear it now...."AAPL has not been given the reception we thought it would have ... penetration is low .... blah, blah, blah" Ok...well in THIS case the law of large numbers is actually our friend since you don't need much penetration percentage-wise to get some fabulous returns! SO THERE (kicking dirt at the umpire as I speak)!
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Post by redinaustin on Dec 5, 2013 5:31:23 GMT -8
Good news and good mood this morning. Idea for Apple's next acquisition:
Icahn Enterprises
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 5, 2013 5:48:51 GMT -8
Interesting note: this will be $aapl 9th straight day of breaking prev day highs.. Parabolic! ;D
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Post by dreamRaj on Dec 5, 2013 5:50:10 GMT -8
There's a good chance we'll hit 580 today. I feel great just writing this!
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Post by qualitywte on Dec 5, 2013 5:50:40 GMT -8
I personally enjoy imagining (guess, dream, hope predict, estimate; whatever) what CM deal could do to the stock on a day like today. Right now I'm bouncing around a $20-25 bump today in my head.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 5, 2013 5:54:40 GMT -8
Well, I wouldn't want to be short over these next few weeks. There is no bad news for this company right now.....why not a 15 P/E soon?
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Post by dreamRaj on Dec 5, 2013 6:06:44 GMT -8
... Right now I'm bouncing around a $20-25 bump today in my head. Easy, tiger, easy!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 6:09:19 GMT -8
Well, I wouldn't want to be short over these next few weeks. There is no bad news for this company right now.....why not a 15 P/E soon? +1 Price target upgrades have to come out in force now. I also expect guidance revision from Tim (from both CM and boffo sales and production). Shorts start looking at other prospects (AMZN? GOOG?). This looks sustainable to me.
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Post by aapl4kiki on Dec 5, 2013 6:26:07 GMT -8
Ladies and Gents place your bets!
Gap and go?
Pop and fade?
Tread water?
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Post by sponge on Dec 5, 2013 6:26:52 GMT -8
... Right now I'm bouncing around a $20-25 bump today in my head. Easy, tiger, easy! I say at least 17. There will be many who will end up chasing this stock in the next 12 months. Always waiting for a correction. Attempting to Timing those only leads to tears and regrets. Those who sold in Nov will be back in come July next year. Gregg was correct regarding CM in 2nd quarter. I think he has been preaching that since July. The rocket has been fueled and the orbit it will reach in the next 12 months will give those who hold LEAPS and shares some amazing views.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 6:34:24 GMT -8
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Post by sponge on Dec 5, 2013 6:52:51 GMT -8
They are asking for more iPhones and trying to steal more inventory allocations from CT and CU. The lows of today may not be seen this week again.
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Post by terps530 on Dec 5, 2013 7:09:20 GMT -8
The lows of today may not be seen this week again. lol this statement is so deep sounding when it really translates to: Tomorrow may not be lower than today.
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Post by dreamRaj on Dec 5, 2013 7:19:05 GMT -8
Apple should surprise everybody on Monday with an invite to a special announcement in Guangzhou, China on Dec 16th. And the invite simply says "Finally...".
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Post by sponge on Dec 5, 2013 7:23:38 GMT -8
Apple should surprise everybody on Monday with an invite to a special announcement in Guangzhou, China on Dec 16th. And the invite simply says "Finally...". Let's see. The invite The event The lines when released The guidance upgrade Lots of things to keep moving us up up and away
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 7:33:45 GMT -8
Read some posts from late last night and just want to put my two cents in. This news - although anticipated (for years, I might add) - is NOT priced into the stock. There are no analysts who have incorporated this news into their numbers (and probably won't until it's "official"). So there will be estimate adjustments, PT adjustments, etc. -- not to mention that we aren't one of those stocks that has had a stellar year and needs to be sold for massive gains - granted if you are a day-trader/swing-trader you may take some profits - but we are on our way -- even the technical stars are aligned. And don't forget - we aren't even talking about promises TC has made about new products in 2014! Just to confirm my statement, I said CM is a major reason we've run up $50 (now $60) in the last 10 trading sessions. Part/Most of the run is in already I believe...once it's officially announced by China Mobile and Apple, we could see close to $600 I believe...but I certainly don't think we'll get an extra $50 or $100 after announcements. And just be cautious, because this is far from the first time that China Mobile was about to be announced. Didn't we drop near $50 the last time it was "guaranteed" to be announced and it wasn't. Anyways, I'd much rather be wrong than right and see a $50+ gain, so here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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Post by firestorm on Dec 5, 2013 7:50:09 GMT -8
Doesn't it seem that CM's foot-dragging is counterproductive to its own interests? It looks like Godot has entered the building, but he just slouched on a couch in the lobby.
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Post by ericinaustin on Dec 5, 2013 7:57:59 GMT -8
We need to get some minions to follow Tim Cook around sometime around December 16. I suspect he may head to Guangzhou and walk on stage with the CM CEO for the big announcement during the big mobile conference. That would be a week to own some weekly call options.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 5, 2013 8:15:42 GMT -8
I do not believe that one can definitively suggest that the move was attributable to CHL rumors. There were numerous rumors plus technical set ups that were favorable. Without knowing if there is an official deal and what that deal looks like, I disagree that the move is baked in. So let's hope I'm correct and you are not -- given that I have the title of "wife" I am always right - by default! :-)
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Post by doublerainbow on Dec 5, 2013 8:17:25 GMT -8
my bet was $600 in 3 weeks about a week ago. which is why I haven't sold any of my shares... I've finally broken even (from a significant loss). now what to do!
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