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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 27, 2013 13:01:48 GMT -8
what a close....something for everybody....
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Post by chasmac on Dec 27, 2013 13:08:55 GMT -8
3) He thinks the Ipad Air is probably the biggest surprise of the year, period. Everyone knew the phones would sell. The Macs do what the Macs do. The Ipad mini retina had a group of people waiting for it, and that was expected. But the Ipad Air could have been a big hit or just an imcremental upgrade product. It certainly proved to be the former....Many, many people buying it on impulse or moving up from the Mini retina choice And a lot of folks upgrading from 1s and 2s that didn't feel compelled before. The iPad cycle is a year or so longer than the iPhone. Good news about store traffic. Over crowded stores was getting to be an issue. $1 < $4.80 on some $555/560/565 butterflies bought Thurs. so it wasn't a total disaster. Haven't done as well on those lately as in the past, good to get a good one off. Cheers all.
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Post by chinacat on Dec 27, 2013 13:16:45 GMT -8
Thought that the Mac Pro enthusiasts here might be interested in an attempt to duplicate minimal and maximal configurations using the old "we can do better with off-the-shelf parts" PC DIY approach. BGR has a good overview, including a link through to the more detailed Futurelooks article.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 27, 2013 13:17:59 GMT -8
3) He thinks the Ipad Air is probably the biggest surprise of the year, period. Everyone knew the phones would sell. The Macs do what the Macs do. The Ipad mini retina had a group of people waiting for it, and that was expected. But the Ipad Air could have been a big hit or just an imcremental upgrade product. It certainly proved to be the former....Many, many people buying it on impulse or moving up from the Mini retina choice And a lot of folks upgrading from 1s and 2s that didn't feel compelled before. The iPad cycle is a year or so longer than the iPhone. Good news about store traffic. Over crowded stores was getting to be an issue. $1 < $4.80 on some $555/560/565 butterflies bought Thurs. so it wasn't a total disaster. Haven't done as well on those lately as in the past, good to get a good one off. Cheers all. Chas hard at work....
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Post by chasmac on Dec 27, 2013 13:29:20 GMT -8
Chas hard at work.... Exactly! Might as well do something with those pins. 😄
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 13:52:37 GMT -8
I loved Red's store report and I love the iPad Air, so don't take this the wrong way... And, please correct me if I'm wrong... but considering they didn't raise guidance, don't we already know roughly how much revenue they will report for the Dec quarter? Something within a couple of percent of the top of their guidance range. So even with iPad air being a big hit it's not like we're going to get an earnings surprise in January. The only positive catalyst would be March quarter guidance, and that's all about China Mobile. Right? If I remember guidance was revised on 9/23 about a week before the end of the quarter. So unless monster numbers roll in from Christmas sales, I am not expecting revised guidance for FQ 1 14. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if I am wrong. Guidance is hairy. Apple has yet to have a significant beat of its guidance since starting the new methodology - so no one really knows what would warrant an upgrade (given that last quarters upgrade was essentially a reiteration that many felt was to stop Wall Street getting carried away with the iPhone launch numbers). And even if we don't see a significant beat on revenue guidance, we could possibly see a decent beat on margins (due to increased 5S mix) and also not see a guidance upgrade - yet see a big EPS surprise.
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Post by Mav on Dec 27, 2013 14:07:30 GMT -8
It's hard to see Apple not beating $58B for the holiday quarter...handily. It might be hard to be an option trader through January though. Don't ask me how I know.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 27, 2013 14:27:59 GMT -8
what a close....something for everybody.... You would THINK that they would close it at $560.5 or $560.30 or something other than $560 on the nose! Geez!
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Post by chasmac on Dec 27, 2013 14:44:28 GMT -8
It's hard to see Apple not beating $58B for the holiday quarter...handily. It might be hard to be an option trader through January though. Don't ask me how I know. Remember last year Mav, all those Leaps expiring make it tough IMO. Good luck.
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 14:48:07 GMT -8
Why? We were expecting a test of support. Support tested. I'd save the "pathetic" label for losing the daily SMA-50. That would be my definition of pathetic.
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 14:52:10 GMT -8
Note to self: Stay away from stocks where weekly options are out of control, filling the casino with gamblers so MM can make money on the backs of AAPL longs. If weeklies are constraining AAPL from rising (absent catalysts), then the option burn imposes additional cost to LEAP holders. Enough about Max Pain from me, at least. Pogo modified: We have met the enemy and he is u. I don't think weeklies constrain AAPL from rising (or falling) as much as sentiment does.
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 14:58:37 GMT -8
Wow! AMZN is below $400 -- what a steal!!! Anyone buying? /s Does covering (some) shorts count? ;D I wouldn't have covered ANY if I trusted the f*cker to keep dropping.
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 15:01:17 GMT -8
$1 < $4.80 on some $555/560/565 butterflies bought Thurs. so it wasn't a total disaster. Haven't done as well on those lately as in the past, good to get a good one off. Cheers all. YAY, Chas!!!!!
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 15:02:26 GMT -8
It's hard to see Apple not beating $58B for the holiday quarter...handily. It might be hard to be an option trader through January though. Don't ask me how I know. Remember last year Mav, all those Leaps expiring make it tough IMO. Good luck. +1
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Post by lovemyipad on Dec 27, 2013 15:11:11 GMT -8
TA Quickie:
Sitting on support at EMA-8 / EMA-13 / SMA-20. All currently in bullish alignment (shorter moving averages above longer ones), which will remain if support holds. Key area here: 558.10 - 560.01. Short-term (multi-days): Bullish above; bearish below.
Bollinger bands narrowing in volatility squeeze and range contraction (before widening and range expansion).
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 27, 2013 15:18:12 GMT -8
Shareholder's meeting: www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312513486406/d648739dpre14a.htmThe maximum number of shares that may be issued or transferred pursuant to awards under the 2014 Plan as a result of applying the share limit formula described above will not exceed 109,477,000 shares, which is the sum of (i) the 55 million shares referred to above, plus (ii) the 16,608,000 shares available for new award grants under the 2003 Plan on November 11, 2013, plus (iii) the 3,361,000 shares subject to stock options previously granted and outstanding under the 2003 Plan as of November 11, 2013, plus (iv) two (2) times (the premium share counting ratio described below) the 17,254,000 shares subject to restricted stock and restricted stock units previously granted and outstanding under the 2003 Plan as of November 11, 2013).
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 27, 2013 15:28:15 GMT -8
more:
The weighted-average number of shares of the Company’s common stock issued and outstanding in each of the last three fiscal years (reflected in thousands) is 924,258 shares issued and outstanding in 2011; 934,818 shares issued and outstanding in 2012; and 925,331 shares issued and outstanding in 2013. The number of shares of the Company’s common stock issued and outstanding as of September 28, 2013 and November 11, 2013 (reflected in thousands) was 899,213 shares and 898,058 shares, respectively. The closing market price for a share of the Company’s common stock as of November 11, 2013 was $519.048 per share.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Dec 27, 2013 15:34:11 GMT -8
more: The weighted-average number of shares of the Company’s common stock issued and outstanding in each of the last three fiscal years (reflected in thousands) is 924,258 shares issued and outstanding in 2011; 934,818 shares issued and outstanding in 2012; and 925,331 shares issued and outstanding in 2013. The number of shares of the Company’s common stock issued and outstanding as of September 28, 2013 and November 11, 2013 (reflected in thousands) was 899,213 shares and 898,058 shares, respectively. The closing market price for a share of the Company’s common stock as of November 11, 2013 was $519.048 per share. Please tell me what the bolded portions mean to you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2013 16:08:48 GMT -8
Note to self: Stay away from stocks where weekly options are out of control, filling the casino with gamblers so MM can make money on the backs of AAPL longs. If weeklies are constraining AAPL from rising (absent catalysts), then the option burn imposes additional cost to LEAP holders. Enough about Max Pain from me, at least. Pogo modified: We have met the enemy and he is u. I don't think weeklies constrain AAPL from rising (or falling) as much as sentiment does. The problem is that sentiment is dependent on catalysts. We have 52 weeks of Max Pain. Today was not sentiment.
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Post by chinacat on Dec 27, 2013 16:29:54 GMT -8
For those who think that Tim Cook does not care about the AAPL share price, here is a good reason why he does. Obviously, he still makes more than most inhabitants of planet Earth can even dream of, but it is interesting that the compensation not earned was due to more stringent evaluation conditions which he insisted on.
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Post by Mav on Dec 27, 2013 17:23:35 GMT -8
Tim Cook has more money than (name your deity) It's good he's tethering his...er...executive compensation horse to share price. He did that intentionally, though it doesn't do much as far as investor confidence, not compared to big news or Carl Icahn. I wonder how aggressive the forfeiture scale is relative to those with those systems in place.
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