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Post by phoebear611 on May 21, 2014 2:08:15 GMT -8
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Post by macwire on May 21, 2014 2:51:55 GMT -8
It's annoying that aapl can't get lift from the general market this year as we have stalled/consolidated/chopped massive gains last two years across major indexes...just can't seem to fight against head wind.
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Post by appledoc on May 21, 2014 3:40:21 GMT -8
It's annoying that aapl can't get lift from the general market this year as we have stalled/consolidated/chopped massive gains last two years across major indexes...just can't seem to fight against head wind. AAPL is up 37.5% versus the S&P's 12.5% over the last year. Sure, the S&P's 2 year return crushes AAPL's. But go back three, four, five years and then try to complain about that.
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Post by macwire on May 21, 2014 5:16:48 GMT -8
It's annoying that aapl can't get lift from the general market this year as we have stalled/consolidated/chopped massive gains last two years across major indexes...just can't seem to fight against head wind. AAPL is up 37.5% versus the S&P's 12.5% over the last year. Sure, the S&P's 2 year return crushes AAPL's. But go back three, four, five years and then try to complain about that. But I want more, daddy!!
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on May 21, 2014 8:10:43 GMT -8
I want to stay above 600 until the split.... And not at all surprisingly, savvy shoppers are holding up on purchase of new Iphones awaiting the Iphone6....this is all baked into the forecasts and should not mean a thing except demand could be quite large when the JD/MERCEL branded megascreen Iphone 6 launches for fat-fingered types. www.macrumors.com/2014/05/21/iphone-survey-munster/
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Post by archibaldtuttle on May 21, 2014 8:24:27 GMT -8
AAPL holding above 600 so far on anemic volume. Seems like the perfect time for a big buyback buy, Maestri...
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Post by nagrani on May 21, 2014 9:01:16 GMT -8
I think we are getting ready for liftoff 626 or bust
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Post by firestorm on May 21, 2014 9:02:48 GMT -8
I like how AAPL has been recovering after being down early in the day the last couple of days. Strength is good.
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Post by rickag on May 21, 2014 10:04:32 GMT -8
Schaeffer's Put to Call RatioThe put to call ratio has dropped from slightly greater than 1 to 0.68. Not sure if there is any meaningful information to glean from this.
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Post by mace on May 21, 2014 11:36:21 GMT -8
AAPL is up 37.5% versus the S&P's 12.5% over the last year. Sure, the S&P's 2 year return crushes AAPL's. But go back three, four, five years and then try to complain about that. But I want more, daddy!! Actually, AAPL is in pace with S&P from Oct 11 to now. Both up by 75%+.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on May 21, 2014 12:07:02 GMT -8
Actually, AAPL is in pace with S&P from Oct 11 to now. Both up by 75%+. Mace what's the outlook, EW, or any other discipline you follow....? Did you ever buy those 590/700 BCS?
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Post by JDSoCal on May 21, 2014 12:26:28 GMT -8
Schaeffer's Put to Call RatioThe put to call ratio has dropped from slightly greater than 1 to 0.68. Not sure if there is any meaningful information to glean from this. The problem with options is they can be hedges to long positions, so deceptive in what they imply; and, of course, the tail can wag the dog with AAPL. i.e., lots of calls suggest bullishness, but, as we know all too well, can whack the underlying stock come Expiry, er, Supply and Demand Day. Boring week/day. Need some volatility to make moves either way. Nice to see us holding 600. For now.
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Post by mace on May 21, 2014 12:38:41 GMT -8
Actually, AAPL is in pace with S&P from Oct 11 to now. Both up by 75%+. Mace what's the outlook, EW, or any other discipline you follow....? Did you ever buy those 590/700 BCS? For EW, refer to EW thread. As for the 595/700 BCS, manage to get only 1/4 of plan, miss by about 50 cents for the other 1/4. I was using GTC, and should have activated at around $581*, but the decline is too fast, pushing up IV and increasing the cost of the BCS. And wasn't at computer to make the necessary adjustment to open it. *TOS allows you to see at what price the position would be activated.
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Post by Mav on May 21, 2014 14:39:55 GMT -8
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Post by JDSoCal on May 21, 2014 15:08:45 GMT -8
So, anyone know exactly how they will split option strikes after June 8? 590 84.285 595 85 600 85.714 615 87.857 625 89.285 630 90 650 92.857 665 95 675 96.428 700 100 707 101 714 102 715 102.142 735 105 750 107.1428571428571 770 110 800 114.285 805 115 Lots of decimals in there (all were rounded off except 750 ).
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Post by rickag on May 21, 2014 15:12:16 GMT -8
Schaeffer's Put to Call RatioThe put to call ratio has dropped from slightly greater than 1 to 0.68. Not sure if there is any meaningful information to glean from this. The problem with options is they can be hedges to long positions, so deceptive in what they imply; and, of course, the tail can wag the dog with AAPL. i.e., lots of calls suggest bullishness, but, as we know all too well, can whack the underlying stock come Expiry, er, Supply and Demand Day. Boring week/day. Need some volatility to make moves either way. Nice to see us holding 600. For now. I agree, plus since this just the ratio, the volume would be helpful, maybe, I think. I also agree that most of the calls & puts are hedges for the large firms. I am searching for something to help me plan a strategy for selling calls against my shares besides just the OI or pain range and not tying up my shares for extended periods.
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Post by mark on May 21, 2014 16:38:39 GMT -8
I was also wondering how they will split options by 7 that don't divide well. Do we get/give cash somehow for the roundoff?
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Post by Mav on May 21, 2014 17:18:05 GMT -8
We'll find out soon.
It's all in 1/7ths. Not the worst thing ever.
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Post by phoebear611 on May 21, 2014 17:25:51 GMT -8
There is no specific way with these splits - they'll be creative on the options. Back offices still have no clue yet - I checked. They're all waiting for word from the OCC.
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Post by icam on May 21, 2014 17:32:50 GMT -8
There is no specific way with these splits - they'll be creative on the options. Back offices still have no clue yet - I checked. They're all waiting for word from the OCC. If they get "creative" and option pricing isn't a straightforward 1/7th, then I can't wait to file my lawsuit.
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Post by artman1033 on May 21, 2014 18:10:48 GMT -8
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Post by artman1033 on May 21, 2014 18:19:48 GMT -8
Published on May 19, 2014 Apple's environmental initiatives VP, Lisa Jackson, discusses the challenges the tech giant faced when trying to be green.
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Post by JDSoCal on May 21, 2014 19:21:17 GMT -8
Published on May 19, 2014 Apple's environmental initiatives VP, Lisa Jackson, discusses the challenges the tech giant faced when trying to be green. Yeah, whatever it takes to keep the ecowhackos at bay, but this sustainability bullshit really starts to get koo-koo birdy - and gross - after a while: Sorry, Levi's: you can't clean your jeans by freezing themDirty hippies.
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