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Post by Since84 on Jan 14, 2015 3:49:41 GMT -8
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 14, 2015 4:53:40 GMT -8
Safe to say AAPL is getting dragged down here with the markets in general. There needs to be (according to the technicians) some resolution here, hopefully today that gives us a clearer direction (both in the markets and with AAPL). Traders Almanac tells us that January expiration week is down 9 of the last 16 years (since 1999) -- so patience -- let's get through it. It's expiration week - funds sell calls against their long stock positions (overwrites) for incremental returns. AAPL, being widely held, is in the mix of these oncoming waves but soon the seas will settle...all will be fine. This week could be a good buying opportunity.
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Post by firestorm on Jan 14, 2015 6:31:28 GMT -8
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Post by Since84 on Jan 14, 2015 6:45:40 GMT -8
At least we're back to GREEN. Frankly, I'd love a nice big gap up to worry about...
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Post by Since84 on Jan 14, 2015 7:00:07 GMT -8
ZDNet citing a Credit Suisse survey Almost 1-in-5 iPhone 6 owners plan to buy an Apple Watch while another 11% said they would probably buy one. I tend to be skeptical of surveys... its way to easy to generate the results you want and many are anything but scientific... but if even half true this would be amazing...
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Post by rezonate on Jan 14, 2015 7:06:49 GMT -8
ZDNet citing a Credit Suisse survey Almost 1-in-5 iPhone 6 owners plan to buy an Apple Watch while another 11% said they would probably buy one. I tend to be skeptical of surveys... its way to easy to generate the results you want and many are anything but scientific... but if even half true this would be amazing... And on the flip side, I purchased my wife the iPhone 6 so she could get the Watch as soon as it is available. Must have horse before the cart. So yes, the conventional survey wisdom may say iPhone is driving desire for watch. In my case, desire for watch drove iPhone sale. And again we see the power of the Apple Volcano™. Tempted to pick up a few shares today. Will report back if I pull the trigger.
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Post by gtrplyr on Jan 14, 2015 7:40:29 GMT -8
In the midst of all this market turmoil I can't help but to wonder why more people don't see that AAPL is a flight to safety. A PE of 17 without even backing the cash out .... why in the hell would you not put money into this company ? SIGH.........
Patience .... Patience .......
Cheers to the longs !
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Post by Volvocoupe on Jan 14, 2015 8:33:50 GMT -8
In the midst of all this market turmoil I can't help but to wonder why more people don't see that AAPL is a flight to safety. A PE of 17 without even backing the cash out .... why in the hell would you not put money into this company ? SIGH......... Patience .... Patience ....... Cheers to the longs ! Because, if you can ignore the disconnect between APPL and Apple and stay long you have ended up with a 4,000% rate of return over the past 10 years and are likely to have a return of at least 400 - 500% over the next ten. Simple as that. There is a lot of risk taking risk in this stock and trying to trade or speculate on it. Get on the staircase and keep climbing.
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Post by firestorm on Jan 14, 2015 11:32:44 GMT -8
I just put both arms way up, experiencing this thrilling roller coaster ride.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 14, 2015 11:41:49 GMT -8
Some people go to amusement parks and we just hold AAPL for the same effect ;-)
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Post by bud777 on Jan 14, 2015 11:59:05 GMT -8
Including the nausea.
Has anyone else noticed the 2 million plus shares that change hands at the close? It has happened on most days this year. Is this Appl buybacks? Is there any way to tell? Also, can anyone explain to me how that many shares can change hands in such a short time and not affect the price?
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Post by Odd-Lot Richard on Jan 14, 2015 12:46:07 GMT -8
Sense of nausea receding, receding, RISING, receding…
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Post by Lstream on Jan 14, 2015 13:05:46 GMT -8
Apparently Samsung is in talks to buy BBRY.
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Post by nathanstevens on Jan 14, 2015 13:07:19 GMT -8
In the midst of all this market turmoil I can't help but to wonder why more people don't see that AAPL is a flight to safety. A PE of 17 without even backing the cash out .... why in the hell would you not put money into this company ? SIGH......... Patience .... Patience ....... Cheers to the longs ! I think that the flight to safety will start next week after OP EX this Friday.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Jan 14, 2015 13:48:06 GMT -8
Apparently Samsung is in talks to buy BBRY. Must be because Samsung is winning.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 14, 2015 13:54:53 GMT -8
Samsung "reportedly" approached Blackberry. It was a Reuters article but gotten from "a source"...so who knows. Looks like they are just getting completely desperate at this point. If true, no one thinks Blackberry would ever sell - in particular - to a Korean (or any other foreign) company. But who knows. Samsung must really be grasping here - yikes!
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Post by bud777 on Jan 14, 2015 14:00:52 GMT -8
So now all those security conscious companies who stayed with BBRY will be dependent on the Korean government. THAT'S gong to work well
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Post by tuffett on Jan 14, 2015 14:23:10 GMT -8
Even if BBRY wanted to, I don't if the Canadian government would approve the sale.
In other news, analyst estimates are currently above the top of Apple's guidance for revenue. Something to watch out for...even an excellent earnings result could be a "disappointment". The stock popping due to earnings is not a sure thing, IMO.
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 14, 2015 15:00:16 GMT -8
Even if BBRY wanted to, I don't if the Canadian government would approve the sale. In other news, analyst estimates are currently above the top of Apple's guidance for revenue. Something to watch out for...even an excellent earnings result could be a "disappointment". The stock popping due to earnings is not a sure thing, IMO. Exactly what folks are saying. Also BBRY just put out a statement that they are not engaged in any talks with Samsung.
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Post by Since84 on Jan 14, 2015 16:22:00 GMT -8
Well... someone was able to sell their BBRY holdings today...
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Post by phoebear611 on Jan 14, 2015 18:54:40 GMT -8
Well... someone was able to sell their BBRY holdings today... And they have "besties" at Reuters!
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Post by JDSoCal on Jan 14, 2015 19:24:32 GMT -8
Interesting story... Apple patent approval sends GoPro stock slidingI have no idea if Apple actually intends to sell such a device, but it does validate my belief that GoPro is preposterously overvalued, as the barriers to entry are nil. So GoPro deserves a 150 P/E while Apple's is 17? The market is insane.
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Post by Mav on Jan 14, 2015 20:17:11 GMT -8
It did sell the iSight camera once.
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Post by bud777 on Jan 14, 2015 20:38:33 GMT -8
When Apple announced the 7:1 split, they chose a ratio that would bring the stock price down to 75. In the two splits before that, it seemed like they split when the stock got well over 100. The desired post split range seemed to be around 50-60. So, not to get ahead of ones self, but what do you think the chances are of a 2:1 split if the stock reaches the 150 that some analysts are predicting. Do you think they will really let it climb back over 200 again?
A second question is "What happened to the inclusion in the DOW?" That talk has faded a bit, but how can the DOW claim to be the most prestigious index and not have the world's largest company?
Just some idle thoughts while we wait for the ship to come in.
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Post by plcm123 on Jan 14, 2015 22:04:58 GMT -8
When Apple announced the 7:1 split, they chose a ratio that would bring the stock price down to 75. In the two splits before that, it seemed like they split when the stock got well over 100. The desired post split range seemed to be around 50-60. So, not to get ahead of ones self, but what do you think the chances are of a 2:1 split if the stock reaches the 150 that some analysts are predicting. Do you think they will really let it climb back over 200 again? A second question is "What happened to the inclusion in the DOW?" That talk has faded a bit, but how can the DOW claim to be the most prestigious index and not have the world's largest company? Just some idle thoughts while we wait for the ship to come in. I think they'll wait until it gets to $300 then do a 5:1 split.
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