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Post by Since84 on Apr 28, 2015 2:27:18 GMT -8
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 2:32:32 GMT -8
Give the morning options a little to unwind and then let's go!
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Post by phoebear611 on Apr 28, 2015 2:56:18 GMT -8
Give the morning options a little to unwind and then let's go! There was supposedly a 3-5% move anticipated AH and as we got closer it popped to a 7% anticipated move so you are spot on. These folks need some time to unwind but then clear the road...potholes should be paved by now and we should have a fairly smooth ride.
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Post by phoebear611 on Apr 28, 2015 3:06:26 GMT -8
A few more to add to PT raises since the PED article came out from above that I'm seeing:
Susquehanna PT from $150 to $155 RBC PT from $142 to $150 Cantor Fitz PT from $180 to $195 (I believe this may the high one on the street)
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Post by rob_london on Apr 28, 2015 3:07:21 GMT -8
Ben Bajarin of Creative Strategies posted an interesting chart this morning. Xiaomi did not have a good quarter. n
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Post by phoebear611 on Apr 28, 2015 3:22:16 GMT -8
Just about now it's the right time for Uncle Carl to shoot out a tweet and remind everyone not only about how right he has been but how undervalued the stock continues to be and perhaps that he has grown his position. That would be lovely and would get us to $150 in a heart beat. I guess he's not such a dumb bunny and he's far from being done in this name.
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Post by mark on Apr 28, 2015 4:58:25 GMT -8
Just about now it's the right time for Uncle Carl to shoot out a tweet and remind everyone not only about how right he has been but how undervalued the stock continues to be and perhaps that he has grown his position. That would be lovely and would get us to $150 in a heart beat. I guess he's not such a dumb bunny and he's far from being done in this name. Maybe he's waiting for a dip (in the overall market that would also affect AAPL) to buy and will only post that tweet after he's done buying.
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Post by nagrani on Apr 28, 2015 5:27:34 GMT -8
Lol watch morning short squeeze
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Post by podboy on Apr 28, 2015 5:41:06 GMT -8
WS is fair. That's how they make money.
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 5:42:55 GMT -8
LOL. I have no words.
Bought some but poss double top?
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Post by artman1033 on Apr 28, 2015 5:46:22 GMT -8
nice volume: 23 million in 15 minutes
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Post by incorrigible on Apr 28, 2015 5:46:52 GMT -8
Down 1%+. Really?? SMH
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 5:50:00 GMT -8
I mean we all should know by now. What's any of our excuses. Lol. Go buy amzn and enjoy the market rewarding you for growth and management. No kindle numbers. No actual profit. I mean... Whatever /rant over
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Post by bud777 on Apr 28, 2015 5:52:25 GMT -8
Just fucking unbelievable Even when you expect it, just unbelievable. So after 2 blowout quarters, we are below where we were in December
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Post by incorrigible on Apr 28, 2015 5:53:19 GMT -8
I bought the dip. This has to be a deperate attempts to close option positions.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on Apr 28, 2015 5:59:52 GMT -8
Their relative silence on apple watch performance, numbers, and expectations allows the FUDsters to fill in the blanks themselves, ie "What's next for Apple to replace cratering iPad sales, because clearly the iWatch isn't doing well."
Obviously we know apple watch is doing well, but there's no facts to counter the manipulators with.
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Post by artman1033 on Apr 28, 2015 6:01:25 GMT -8
I think it was the non answers to the WATCH questions. UPON reflection, it would have made more sense to have the earnings call LAST Tuesday.
After 30 minutes: Volume 35,970,606 NICE VOLUME AAPL $131.11 down $1.54 -1.16%
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Post by dreamRaj on Apr 28, 2015 6:04:19 GMT -8
BTFD, yet again!
Back to being at the mercy of Apple continuing its buyback to get us back up. UnFuckinBelievable!
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 6:15:28 GMT -8
Off 3 now. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 6:15:57 GMT -8
In my mind, the initial reaction to Apple's earnings report has destroyed what little credibility the stock market had left. If WS thinks retail money isn't paying attention, they're wrong. Polls reveal that most think the stock market is rigged. After this, is there anyone left who doesn't think that? I'm quite serious.
And perhaps the weekly players can find another piñata stock to play with -- I sure as hell would stay away from AAPL.
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Post by gtrplyr on Apr 28, 2015 6:17:03 GMT -8
Fuck them ... If I had any more to invest I'd do it.
Short sighted idiots ..... we have seen this movie several times.
Cheers to the longs ...
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 6:28:35 GMT -8
The thing that puzzles me is the amount of volume it's hard to say it's just options MM pushing it around and so forth.
There's a lot of retail and institutions in this
Anyways one hour done probably most of the options interest is unwound so let's try to reverse
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 6:42:34 GMT -8
Open interest this week is suggesting $130 - $132 on Friday -- let's wait until after today's close. I do believe that's part of the answer here today. I wish I had looked at this earlier, naively thinking it wouldn't matter with a strong earnings report acting as a catalyst.
A new technical measurement: How many daily Apple posts at StockTwits. Lower numbers are better, as we know most of them are trading short term options.
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Post by platon on Apr 28, 2015 7:08:38 GMT -8
Stock manipulation at its best. Did you see the fluctuation in the price between 10 am and 10:15 or so? Anyway sold a call on common yesterday @ $135 for Friday @ 2.40 and covered them at around $131.40 today. I only deal with covered calls so if AAPL stays below $135 until Friday I will own more shares than I ever have. I am not too nervous but I really would like to think the SEC would look at firms like Citi who manipulate this stock at the expense of the retail investors. I wish I had as much faith as Mercel in the retail side but I don't. I would bet there were a lot them buying in after hours yesterday who sold at a loss this morning. I have been there myself so I guess it takes one to know one.
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Post by JDSoCal on Apr 28, 2015 7:10:23 GMT -8
Open interest this week is suggesting $130 - $132 on Friday -- let's wait until after today's close. I do believe that's part of the answer here today. I wish I had looked at this earlier, naively thinking it wouldn't matter with a strong earnings report acting as a catalyst. A new technical measurement: How many daily Apple posts at StockTwits. Lower numbers are better, as we know most of them are trading short term options. I must dissent, Mercel. Open interest on a Tuesday after earnings should not be an issue. I have to say, if I were advising new investors (or old investors with dry powder), at this point, I couldn't recommend this particular crap table in this casino. I have tax reasons why I couldn't dump AAPL if I wanted to. But this stock is broken relative to other weaker companies. As if there were stronger companies. Now close at 14X on Friday and prove me wrong, AAPL.
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Post by platon on Apr 28, 2015 7:14:54 GMT -8
Watching the ticker and someone is bound and determined to keep the stock below $131.
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Post by phoebear611 on Apr 28, 2015 7:21:09 GMT -8
If AAPL really wanted to screw these MMs they would jam a few massive buybacks during late Friday afternoons. They wouldn't know what hit them. Beat them at their own game for a bit.
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Post by macwire on Apr 28, 2015 7:30:32 GMT -8
Thank god there's one AAPL long that cares to defend the stock
Icahn.
::lol::
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Post by mark on Apr 28, 2015 7:31:23 GMT -8
"There is looming trouble for Apple" www.businessinsider.com/apples-growth-could-slow-down-2015-4When will all these people realize that "looming trouble", whether real or imagined, as long as it drops the stock price significantly, *IS* the very thing that allows us to profit handsomely by investing in this stock and its options? Those "looming troubles"that cause the stock to drop 20, 30, or 40 percent are the very thing that allow us to purchase the next set of LEAPS (maybe Jan '18s or Jan '19s this time around) at low prices and then watch them leap ahead (pun intended) when the stock recovers and then blazes new trails.
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Post by mark on Apr 28, 2015 7:34:59 GMT -8
Stock manipulation at its best. Did you see the fluctuation in the price between 10 am and 10:15 or so? Anyway sold a call on common yesterday @ $135 for Friday @ 2.40 and covered them at around $131.40 today. I only deal with covered calls so if AAPL stays below $135 until Friday I will own more shares than I ever have. I am not too nervous but I really would like to think the SEC would look at firms like Citi who manipulate this stock at the expense of the retail investors. I wish I had as much faith as Mercel in the retail side but I don't. I would bet there were a lot them buying in after hours yesterday who sold at a loss this morning. I have been there myself so I guess it takes one to know one. We've discussed this here and other places MANY times already. The amount of capital required to manipulate this stock (and any reasonably liquid stock) is much higher than the amount of capital you can gain from the manipulation. Therefore this isn't manipulation what you are witnessing. Squaring large option positions by buying or selling large amounts of stock ISN'T manipulation, it is one of the normal ways of trading options/stock and sometimes causes rapid changes in the value of the stock.
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