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Post by Since84 on May 20, 2015 2:24:59 GMT -8
Good morning everyone. AAPL is GREEN again, trading at 130.33 +0.26 (0.20%) at this early hour. Let's hope the color holds... Meanwhile the major US indices are mixed, but all close to flat. Another way of says Mr Market is indecisive. In the news: AppleInsider reports Apple starts advertising Watch as part of connected iOS, Mac ecosystem. Following yesterday's news that stores would be stocking the watch by June it looks like the supply lines are clearing. Uncle Carl was interviewed on CNBC yesterday Apple: Icahn Lauds the Watch, But He Doesn’t Want to Be Pushy. Must admit I've come to respect Carl. He is much more than a scavenger. Have a great day. Let's make money. *** Observation on the political dialogue One of the consequences of the 'right / left dichotomy' is that both 'sides' tend to view the world as black and white. There are many hues. Indeed, if one gets off the straight line and looks at the world through another prism such as the Nolan Chart one finds much basis for discussion and debate and that the differences are not what they seem. For instance, it's been observed that progressives and libertarians often share the same goals, differing only in the methods. Not to understate the differences between them which are many, but focusing on agreement often leads to change.
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Post by rob_london on May 20, 2015 3:19:55 GMT -8
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Post by Odd-Lot Richard on May 20, 2015 5:14:07 GMT -8
The problem with Nolan charts is that no matter where you put specific issues people who disagree on an issue are still going to be on different sides. It's helpful if you want to absurdly reduce people to four instead of two categories or if you want to show college freshmen that they are actually libertarian rather than conservative*, but for discussion, issue-by-issue will still cause contention.
Do we still have a Dun--er, "Fungeon?" There are certain lines of discussion that may benefit from taking it to the fun-loving, freewheeling atmosphere there.
*I still remember the consternation 25 years ago at the libertarian kiosk on the quad when they scored my survey almost exactly in the middle of their graph.
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Post by Since84 on May 20, 2015 5:59:40 GMT -8
*I still remember the consternation 25 years ago at the libertarian kiosk on the quad when they scored my survey almost exactly in the middle of their graph. Oh... a 'centerist'. Based on the commentary around here, you're unique. Back to AAPL. Frustrated with the downward action. Glad to see the bounce. I have noticed a tendency toward down days in the days following the dividend. Attribute that to reinvestment activity on dividend day, so I held off on my reinvestment. Now the question is when to buy?
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Post by Ted on May 20, 2015 6:15:01 GMT -8
Up a dime! I'll take it. The longer we stay above 130, the better . . .
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Post by Ted on May 20, 2015 6:25:05 GMT -8
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Post by Odd-Lot Richard on May 20, 2015 7:51:46 GMT -8
Back to AAPL. Frustrated with the downward action. Glad to see the bounce. I have noticed a tendency toward down days in the days following the dividend. Attribute that to reinvestment activity on dividend day, so I held off on my reinvestment. Now the question is when to buy? Why, just before 2:14 pm every day, of course! With my Friday call having gone pear-shaped and listening to mace, macwire, and Phoebe yesterday, I am a bit standoffish and gunshy myself this week.
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Post by Luckychoices on May 20, 2015 8:16:10 GMT -8
I posted a very short video to the "Apple Fundamentals" section of the board, that speaks to the frustration that many of us on the board have commented upon in the past: Wall Street gives more credit to companies that make little or no money (Amazon) than they do to companies that make a great deal of money (Apple). The language in the video is HBO-rated so, if that would offend you, please don't watch it. aaplfinance.proboards.com/thread/1111/companies-lose-money-worth-more
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Post by rickag on May 20, 2015 8:38:35 GMT -8
SIAP but i can't help myself. Link to Forbes article (caveat lector:Forbes sold a majority of itself to Asian investor group Integrated Whale Media Investments in July 2014.) Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 SalesSamsung made the ultimate mistake. They increased their penchant for coping the iPhone and left out a removable battery, no sim card slot, lost water proofing and increased the price. The Android faithful apparently have rejected the new Samsung smartphones. They lost the only distinguishing bullet points that all Android fans pointed to and are now paying the price. Samsung projected sales of 70 million and "While the official didn’t name the exact date the 10M mark was passed, it would leave Samsung just seven months to sell the remaining 60M units – an average of 8.6M units per month." Now I more completely understand the slashing of prices on the S6 and edge. I can't wait until anyone accidentally drops an edge and the screen ends up looking like a spider web. How do you design a case around the edge without interfering with its dubious edge benefits without leaving the edge exposed to breaking if dropped. I know it won't happen, but I would find it hilarious if Apple included a Sim Card slot and water proofing in the next iPhone design.
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Post by redinaustin on May 20, 2015 9:06:07 GMT -8
You do the math! @benbajarin: Calendar Q1 2015 smartphone sales.
Apple - 61.2 m with ASP of $665 Samsung - 83.2m with ASP of $198
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Post by macwire on May 20, 2015 9:13:28 GMT -8
130.50 continues to be what to watch.
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Post by Ted on May 20, 2015 9:44:44 GMT -8
SIAP but i can't help myself. Link to Forbes article (caveat lector:Forbes sold a majority of itself to Asian investor group Integrated Whale Media Investments in July 2014.) Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 SalesSamsung made the ultimate mistake. They increased their penchant for coping the iPhone and left out a removable battery, no sim card slot, lost water proofing and increased the price. The Android faithful apparently have rejected the new Samsung smartphones. They lost the only distinguishing bullet points that all Android fans pointed to and are now paying the price. Samsung projected sales of 70 million and "While the official didn’t name the exact date the 10M mark was passed, it would leave Samsung just seven months to sell the remaining 60M units – an average of 8.6M units per month." Now I more completely understand the slashing of prices on the S6 and edge. I can't wait until anyone accidentally drops an edge and the screen ends up looking like a spider web. How do you design a case around the edge without interfering with its dubious edge benefits without leaving the edge exposed to breaking if dropped. I know it won't happen, but I would find it hilarious if Apple included a Sim Card slot and water proofing in the next iPhone design. [yes!]Apple's only real phone competitor is going down the drain quickly, it seems, and the market says, AAPL, meh...
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Post by mark on May 20, 2015 10:04:55 GMT -8
I posted a very short video to the "Apple Fundamentals" section of the board, that speaks to the frustration that many of us on the board have commented upon in the past: Wall Street gives more credit to companies that make little or no money (Amazon) than they do to companies that make a great deal of money (Apple). The language in the video is HBO-rated so, if that would offend you, please don't watch it. aaplfinance.proboards.com/thread/1111/companies-lose-money-worth-moreThat video made me truly laugh out loud! I sent it to one of my friends in the startup industry Where is it from?
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Post by mark on May 20, 2015 10:10:22 GMT -8
My 115 puts expired worthless over the weekend. Now I'm looking for another set of puts to sell (short). Any ideas? I wish there would be a pullback one of these days so I can see some better prices on the puts.
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Post by flyonthewall on May 20, 2015 10:29:59 GMT -8
What just happened? Any news?
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Post by JDSoCal on May 20, 2015 10:31:04 GMT -8
WTF with the pop, was there some news?
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on May 20, 2015 10:38:42 GMT -8
Back to AAPL. Frustrated with the downward action. Glad to see the bounce. I have noticed a tendency toward down days in the days following the dividend. Attribute that to reinvestment activity on dividend day, so I held off on my reinvestment. Now the question is when to buy? Why, just before 2:14 pm every day, of course! With my Friday call having gone pear-shaped and listening to mace, macwire, and Phoebe yesterday, I am a bit standoffish and gunshy myself this week. Yup....if Since84 had bought at 2:13 today he would be a happy man....
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Post by archibaldtuttle on May 20, 2015 10:44:48 GMT -8
What just happened? Any news? Release of Fed meeting minutes...
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on May 20, 2015 10:51:22 GMT -8
The Fed minutes were a net neutral. Some thinking start tightening in June; some later...but in either event not a negative for the markets today.
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Post by archibaldtuttle on May 20, 2015 10:54:30 GMT -8
You can see price and volume spike out of today's range after the release of the minutes at 2pm. Not a big jump, because as you say there was no big news. But that was the "reason" for the change.
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Post by Luckychoices on May 20, 2015 10:56:22 GMT -8
I posted a very short video to the "Apple Fundamentals" section of the board, that speaks to the frustration that many of us on the board have commented upon in the past: Wall Street gives more credit to companies that make little or no money (Amazon) than they do to companies that make a great deal of money (Apple). The language in the video is HBO-rated so, if that would offend you, please don't watch it. aaplfinance.proboards.com/thread/1111/companies-lose-money-worth-moreThat video made me truly laugh out loud! I sent it to one of my friends in the startup industry Where is it from? Glad you liked it, mark. So far, that makes two of us on the board that thought it was funny. :-) It's from the HBO series, "Silicon Valley", now in it's 2nd season. Since you enjoyed the video, make sure you read the first link on my post as well. It does a great job describing the billionaire character in the clip and the comments are worth reading as well. I enclosed the first link below: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/silicon-valley-recap-season-2-russ-hanneman/?_r=1
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Post by 4aapl on May 20, 2015 11:13:52 GMT -8
Glad you liked it, mark. So far, that makes two of us on the board that thought it was funny. :-) It was good. 21 people had viewed the clip by the time I did an hour ago. But sadly, even if it is counterintuitive it is right, that basically an unknown has more potential than a known. Though it might not be as much into the overall stock price more os the time, even that plays into AAPL at times, such as a run-up to a product announcement, and then a back-off when it's just an awesomely great thing that will sell a lot, but not something completely unexpected. Now I'm on to the next clip youtube fed me, a google talk by the person who wrote Dhandho. Sadly, while I think he has some very good things to say, he's very longwinded and I'm having trouble paying attention. But the short of it is that his investing method is to buy things with little downside, and a lot of upside. That's really simplifying, but it's what it works out to. What it really needs is a summarization, but I just had it playing while reading other things www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_nWM4vjgqE
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Post by JDSoCal on May 20, 2015 11:24:23 GMT -8
Just opened a 131-130 bear call spread, a few minutes before those scumbag MM's took AAPL down. If you can't beat them - and boy, would I love to beat them - join them. #OpEx
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Post by Since84 on May 20, 2015 12:36:25 GMT -8
I'm happy. We closed GREEN.
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Post by JDSoCal on May 20, 2015 12:54:42 GMT -8
Back to AAPL. Frustrated with the downward action. Glad to see the bounce. I have noticed a tendency toward down days in the days following the dividend. Attribute that to reinvestment activity on dividend day, so I held off on my reinvestment. Now the question is when to buy? Why, just before 2:14 pm every day, of course!
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Post by incorrigible on May 20, 2015 12:54:59 GMT -8
I'm happy. We closed GREEN. I'm showing close @ $130.06. Down a penny.
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on May 20, 2015 13:23:54 GMT -8
Why, just before 2:14 pm every day, of course! Jd, I can't forecast what happens at 3:14. But at 2:14 we went straight up!
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Post by rickag on May 20, 2015 14:02:39 GMT -8
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Post by JDSoCal on May 20, 2015 14:14:41 GMT -8
Between the west coast time difference and military time, I'm lost. I did sell a 130-131 weekly spread just before the dip.
Enjoying a cigar on this nice 73F SoCal day...
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Post by Mav on May 20, 2015 15:23:41 GMT -8
Hello all
GAWD THIS SIDEWAYS AAPL TRADE IS THE WORST
See you on Twitter or back here sometime. Just not much going on right now in Apple/AAPL-land.
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