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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 8:55:26 GMT -8
Anybody puts a drone over my property, it is coming down..... The day Amazon announces implementation of drones, is the day I become a paint ball anti-aircraft gunner.
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Post by Zeke on Dec 2, 2013 9:02:20 GMT -8
The death knell for TV shows has always been the guest appearance. When a sitcom had an episode built around the appearance of David Hasselhoff or Dolly Parton in the lives of its characters you knew that the writers were out of novel ideas, and that the show was on its last legs. Amazon maintains its valuation based on hype. It has no significant profits and no reasonable prospects for any, so all it has is fantasy. Investors fantasize about its future and presently are willing to accept almost anything that supports their wishful thinking. That bubble will burst sooner or later, and this impractical, unworkable, economically ridiculous idea is equivalent to Harry Connick Jr. making a guest appearance on Cheers. It's an announcement that, "Hey, folks, we're desperate!"
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Post by stub on Dec 2, 2013 9:11:15 GMT -8
The death knell for TV shows has always been the guest appearance. When a sitcom had an episode built around the appearance of David Hasselhoff or Dolly Parton in the lives of its characters you knew that the writers were out of novel ideas, and that the show was on its last legs. Amazon maintains its valuation based on hype. It has no significant profits and no reasonable prospects for any, so all it has is fantasy. Investors fantasize about its future and presently are willing to accept almost anything that supports their wishful thinking. That bubble will burst sooner or later, and this impractical, unworkable, economically ridiculous idea is equivalent to Harry Connick Jr. making a guest appearance on Cheers. It's an announcement that, "Hey, folks, we're desperate!" TV shows? What's this in reference to? Did I miss something?
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Post by The Big Toe on Dec 2, 2013 9:41:44 GMT -8
I could see this Amazon drone thing becoming a reality. I don't think it would drop off on your front porch, but I could see a secure "landing pad", something the size of a doghouse set up on someone's property. The drone would fly over, send a signal for the doghouse to open, drop off package, close, done.
There are lots of issues, but it will be doable.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 2, 2013 9:50:56 GMT -8
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Post by chinacat on Dec 2, 2013 10:04:32 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start.
I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen."
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Post by po1nt on Dec 2, 2013 10:06:59 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." Great time to take profits if you bought a week ago. (short term)
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 2, 2013 10:22:06 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." OPPIE is guiding up to $4 Billion more in sales over last year. Last year they sold: Turning to iPad, we were thrilled to sell 22.9 million iPads during the quarter compared to 15.4 million in the year ago quarter. That translates to over 1.7 million iPads per week in the current year quarter 2 million iPads @$500 each = $1 Billion in revenue. Is the average sales revenue on Black Friday $500 or closer to $300 with the discounts? $4 Billion in extra revenue is a lot. IMHO: the extra $4 Billion in revenue has to come from iPhones and iPads. Last year's $54 Billion total included lots of iPhones and iPads. And then you have the "deferred revenue". That "deferred revenue" has to be deducted from the TOTAL revenue before guidance. Isn't that correct?
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Post by zzmac on Dec 2, 2013 10:28:19 GMT -8
The death knell for TV shows has always been the guest appearance. When a sitcom had an episode built around the appearance of David Hasselhoff or Dolly Parton in the lives of its characters you knew that the writers were out of novel ideas, and that the show was on its last legs. Amazon maintains its valuation based on hype. It has no significant profits and no reasonable prospects for any, so all it has is fantasy. Investors fantasize about its future and presently are willing to accept almost anything that supports their wishful thinking. That bubble will burst sooner or later, and this impractical, unworkable, economically ridiculous idea is equivalent to Harry Connick Jr. making a guest appearance on Cheers. It's an announcement that, "Hey, folks, we're desperate!" TV shows? What's this in reference to? Did I miss something? Amazon Women. New sci-fi TV series.
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Post by appledoc on Dec 2, 2013 10:29:32 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." See post #1. All squiggly lines. I sold at 557 on Friday. You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. Delivery in 30 minutes? Sign me up.
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 2, 2013 10:37:05 GMT -8
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Post by bud777 on Dec 2, 2013 10:57:55 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. You are going to be a surgeon, right?
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Post by macwire on Dec 2, 2013 11:21:24 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." Profit taking. It's near term overbought. The trend strength will be determined by how far it retraces.
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Post by mace on Dec 2, 2013 11:26:55 GMT -8
Profit taking. It's near term overbought. The trend strength will be determined by how far it retraces. I think china cat asks why now, at $564? Why not $555 or $600 or ... ? Why not Friday, why not tomorrow? The only reason I can think of is broad market is correcting, traders figure is hard to go against the tide and CM's rumored launch is still quite faraway. Dec 18 is two weeks away, plenty of time to reload.
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Post by mace on Dec 2, 2013 11:29:00 GMT -8
You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. You are going to be a surgeon, right? I think he meant Freedom Of Speech
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Post by chinacat on Dec 2, 2013 11:37:22 GMT -8
Some of you may remember my intense interest in the 5c a while back, so I was pleased to find some analysis from Kantar just put up by PED:
"The cheaper 5C," he writes, "appeals to a broader audience than Apple usually attracts. In the US, the biggest demand for these mid-end models is coming from lower income households. Some 42% of iPhone 5C owners earn less than $49,000 compared with just 21% for iPhone 5S. iPhone 5C customers also tend to be slightly older at an average of 38 years compared to 34 years for the 5S. The good news for Apple is that this wider appeal is attracting significant switching from competitors. Almost half of iPhone 5C owners switched from competitor brands, particularly Samsung and LG, compared with 80% of 5S owners who upgraded from a previous iPhone model."
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Post by artman1033 on Dec 2, 2013 11:41:59 GMT -8
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Post by mstrmac on Dec 2, 2013 11:45:07 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." The concern is out there that Apple will get its arse wiped by Chromebook in the education market. Unless Apple wants to actually compete by introducing an "ePad" or robust education targeted iOS laptop instead of the consumer devices it now has, Apple will suscum to the price point problem again and lose market share and the PR wars. iPad's are perfect for elementary level (young kids) but many secondary schools are going with Chromebooks. There's not much you can't do with cloud computing these days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 12:06:35 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." Perhaps someone can explain to me why Apple went up $40 in one week after doing nothing for a month on no news. I'm looking for something other than the squiggly lines said.
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Post by bud777 on Dec 2, 2013 12:09:59 GMT -8
Sometimes things happen that give one an irrefutable fix on where we stand in the cosmos. I am talking about occurrences that are so clear, so direct, that we are left to restructure our understanding of the universe and our place in it. No matter how painful, we just have to accept the revealed truth and get on with our lives.
I bought a 5S about two weeks ago. This in itself should be a hugely bullish sign, because I do not part with my nickels easily. I finally got tired of my wife's hand me down 4 and decided that Siri and the fingerprint sensor were worth the upgrade.
The 5S is a precision instrument. Owning one is like owning a fine swiss watch. The user interface is idiot proof. How could it be simpler? I went through the setup and had no problem getting to recognize my thumbprint. A few minutes and I was up and running.
Out of habit, over the next few days, I still entered the passcode when I used it, actually forgetting about the fingerprint sensor. When I remembered it, things took a turn for the worse. I placed my forefinger on the sensor and nothing happened, it still asked for the code. I tried tapping my finger, still nothing, No matter what I did, I still had to enter the code.
Then slowly, dimly, the light bulb went off. Apple certainly has succeeded in making an idiot proof security system. Bud-proof? Thats another thing entirely
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Post by cbingle on Dec 2, 2013 12:19:24 GMT -8
See post #1. All squiggly lines. I sold at 557 on Friday.
You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. Delivery in 30 minutes? Sign me up.
this is why I am afraid to go to a doctor or hospital. Little focus on task at hand...
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Post by chinacat on Dec 2, 2013 12:27:11 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." Perhaps someone can explain to me why Apple went up $40 in one week after doing nothing for a month on no news. I'm looking for something other than the squiggly lines said. Well, I seemed to have offended the TA segment of the board. That was not my intent. I guess I should have asked "Has anyone seen news that could explain why Apple suddenly dived today at 9:34 AM despite a strong start after a boffo Black Friday weekend?" mea culpa
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Post by appledoc on Dec 2, 2013 12:28:29 GMT -8
See post #1. All squiggly lines. I sold at 557 on Friday. You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. Delivery in 30 minutes? Sign me up. this is why I am afraid to go to a doctor or hospital. Little focus on task at hand... Please. My message board demeanor is hardly my work demeanor. I just get annoyed seeing the same comments regurgitated again and again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 12:32:39 GMT -8
Perhaps someone can explain to me why Apple went up $40 in one week after doing nothing for a month on no news. I'm looking for something other than the squiggly lines said. Well, I seemed to have offended the TA segment of the board. That was not my intent. I guess I should have asked "Has anyone seen news that could explain why Apple suddenly dived today at 9:34 AM despite a strong start after a boffo Black Friday weekend?" mea culpa I'm far from the TA side...much more FA. But I just come to the point where I can't complain when my stock goes down for "no reason" when it also goes up for "no reason". My idea is investing for the long term which will be decided how much EPS growth there is, how much Dividend Growth there is and a few other metrics. That will all be found on a quarterly basis and if the story changes, I should see it in the Quarterly Report. Other than new product releases, the 3 months in between Quarterly Reports is just noise.
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Post by mace on Dec 2, 2013 13:01:41 GMT -8
The concern is out there that Apple will get its arse wiped by Chromebook in the education market. Unless Apple wants to actually compete by introducing an "ePad" or robust education targeted iOS laptop instead of the consumer devices it now has, Apple will suscum to the price point problem again and lose market share and the PR wars. iPad's are perfect for elementary level (young kids) but many secondary schools are going with Chromebooks. There's not much you can't do with cloud computing these days. Secondary? Lower Secondary = Upper Middle. Upper Secondary = Lower High School. My youngest son is in High School. Teachers require students to submit in MS Office or Google Docs. So Chromebooks are indeed a threat. I think Apple has responded with free iWork and keeping iPad2 for sale. You think Apple should come up with ePad? Why is that a more superior strategy?
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Post by mace on Dec 2, 2013 13:09:53 GMT -8
I guess I should have asked "Has anyone seen news that could explain why Apple suddenly dived today at 9:34 AM despite a strong start after a boffo Black Friday weekend?" mea culpa Cut n paste from previous post: The only reason I can think of is broad market is correcting, traders figure is hard to go against the tide and CM's rumored launch is still quite faraway. Dec 18 is two weeks away, plenty of time to reload. Just to be clearer, traders buy more after a boffo Black Friday weekend, but broad market weakens, traders realize can't go against the tide, so profit-take. No Apple-specific news that cause the change of heart, pure trading psychology.
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Post by mace on Dec 2, 2013 13:11:47 GMT -8
Please. My message board demeanor is hardly my work demeanor. I just get annoyed seeing the same comments regurgitated again and again. So long is not the same guy, is ok. If same guy, allow them to repeat three times .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 13:15:32 GMT -8
Sometimes things happen that give one an irrefutable fix on where we stand in the cosmos. I am talking about occurrences that are so clear, so direct, that we are left to restructure our understanding of the universe and our place in it. No matter how painful, we just have to accept the revealed truth and get on with our lives. I bought a 5S about two weeks ago. This in itself should be a hugely bullish sign, because I do not part with my nickels easily. I finally got tired of my wife's hand me down 4 and decided that Siri and the fingerprint sensor were worth the upgrade. The 5S is a precision instrument. Owning one is like owning a fine swiss watch. The user interface is idiot proof. How could it be simpler? I went through the setup and had no problem getting to recognize my thumbprint. A few minutes and I was up and running. Out of habit, over the next few days, I still entered the passcode when I used it, actually forgetting about the fingerprint sensor. When I remembered it, things took a turn for the worse. I placed my forefinger on the sensor and nothing happened, it still asked for the code. I tried tapping my finger, still nothing, No matter what I did, I still had to enter the code. Then slowly, dimly, the light bulb went off. Apple certainly has succeeded in making an idiot proof security system. Bud-proof? Thats another thing entirely Delete your fingerprints on the device and re-enter - fixed the same issue for me, now works probably 99% of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 13:16:03 GMT -8
Some of you may remember my intense interest in the 5c a while back, so I was pleased to find some analysis from Kantar just put up by PED: "The cheaper 5C," he writes, "appeals to a broader audience than Apple usually attracts. In the US, the biggest demand for these mid-end models is coming from lower income households. Some 42% of iPhone 5C owners earn less than $49,000 compared with just 21% for iPhone 5S. iPhone 5C customers also tend to be slightly older at an average of 38 years compared to 34 years for the 5S. The good news for Apple is that this wider appeal is attracting significant switching from competitors. Almost half of iPhone 5C owners switched from competitor brands, particularly Samsung and LG, compared with 80% of 5S owners who upgraded from a previous iPhone model." That's excellent news, thanks for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 13:18:48 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." OPPIE is guiding up to $4 Billion more in sales over last year. Last year they sold: Turning to iPad, we were thrilled to sell 22.9 million iPads during the quarter compared to 15.4 million in the year ago quarter. That translates to over 1.7 million iPads per week in the current year quarter 2 million iPads @$500 each = $1 Billion in revenue. Is the average sales revenue on Black Friday $500 or closer to $300 with the discounts? $4 Billion in extra revenue is a lot. IMHO: the extra $4 Billion in revenue has to come from iPhones and iPads. Last year's $54 Billion total included lots of iPhones and iPads. And then you have the "deferred revenue". That "deferred revenue" has to be deducted from the TOTAL revenue before guidance. Isn't that correct? As well as the deferred revenue, there is also the drag from the shrinking iPod line, which will come in approximately $1 billion in revenue lighter than last years Q1.
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