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Post by chinacat on Dec 2, 2013 13:25:45 GMT -8
I'm far from the TA side...much more FA. But I just come to the point where I can't complain when my stock goes down for "no reason" when it also goes up for "no reason". My idea is investing for the long term which will be decided how much EPS growth there is, how much Dividend Growth there is and a few other metrics. That will all be found on a quarterly basis and if the story changes, I should see it in the Quarterly Report. Other than new product releases, the 3 months in between Quarterly Reports is just noise. Today must be my clumsy day. Your comment just happened to be the last one to make the "squiggly line" reference, and was not meant to be personal. I am strictly a common holder since 2007, four trades, the last being in 2012. Stubbornly holding for one more Saturn V, fighting off pressure from my advisor about being overweight. Sometimes, such dramatic reversals are associated with breaking news (or FUD), and there are many on the board who appear to be more closely plugged in to reliable sources than I am. Hence my query. I plead guilty to the "squiggly lines" reference, I meant it as a lighthearted throwaway to reinforce the "news" orientation, but should have known better.
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Post by Ted on Dec 2, 2013 13:33:10 GMT -8
See post #1. All squiggly lines. I sold at 557 on Friday. You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. Delivery in 30 minutes? Sign me up. this is why I am afraid to go to a doctor or hospital. Little focus on task at hand... Please. My message board demeanor is hardly my work demeanor. I just get annoyed seeing the same comments regurgitated again and again. Huh? Doc on pg. 1: State the reasons why the drone thing is a dumb idea. Posters, myself included, throw out reasons, mostly about BB guns or tomatoes. A couple people agree with Doc, mostly they disagree. Pg. 2: Doc writes that we're full of shit. Pg. 3: Doc is annoyed with regurgitated comments. Who's FOS here? Next time don't invite people to comment if their disagreeing with you is so upsetting.
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Post by Luckychoices on Dec 2, 2013 13:34:40 GMT -8
I won't state a dozen practical reasons this is a stupid idea. I'm just imagining the fun my dog will have. State them. I'd love to hear them. I doubt we'll see Amazon drones delivering packages in the near, medium or even semi-distant future. But if I can order a book and have it delivered by O.W.L.S., I may defer switching to e-books just for the delivery experience. :-) www.waterstones.com/blog/2013/12/introducing-o-w-l-s/"O.W.L.S. consists of a fleet of specially trained owls that, either working individually or as an adorable team, will be able to deliver your package within thirty minutes of you placing your order." Putting O.W.L.S. into commercial use will take a number of years as it takes ages to train owls to do anything and we only just thought of it this morning."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 13:35:10 GMT -8
The US military is investing a lot of money in drone delivery systems, to deliver supplies to the frontline (as large as tanks even) and even to medivac wounded soldiers.
Delivery drones have some obvious use cases, but home delivery of consumer goods seems like it would be a hard one to master. I can see it working on an opt-in basis delivering low value goods (I really don't care if a drone leaves some toilet paper or soda on my lawn without getting my signature) and the 30 minute delivery would be fantastic if you forgot that one item from the supermarket for tonight's big meal you were in the middle of preparing, but I wouldn't want a new MacBook Pro delivered that way.
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Post by Apple II+ on Dec 2, 2013 14:06:48 GMT -8
Drones are cool (straightens bow-tie).
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 14:16:11 GMT -8
It _is_ "time" for retrace. We're just fine for now. Feels like dips may be buyable.
Mav Sell Signal? ;D
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 14:16:48 GMT -8
Drones are cool (straightens bow-tie). The non-heat-packing-type-drones are, you mean?
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Post by appledoc on Dec 2, 2013 14:29:19 GMT -8
Please. My message board demeanor is hardly my work demeanor. I just get annoyed seeing the same comments regurgitated again and again. Huh? Doc on pg. 1: State the reasons why the drone thing is a dumb idea. Posters, myself included, throw out reasons, mostly about BB guns or tomatoes. A couple people agree with Doc, mostly they disagree. Pg. 2: Doc writes that we're full of shit. Pg. 3: Doc is annoyed with regurgitated comments. Who's FOS here? Next time don't invite people to comment if their disagreeing with you is so upsetting. BB guns and tomatoes... Y'all hate AMZN. I get it.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 14:53:56 GMT -8
I just see problems with the concept. Drones, esp. automated ones, would take away jobs from humans and would be widely resented. Misundertanding Amazon, The Whole Point Of Technological Advance Is To Destroy JobsConsumers don't care about jobs so long as they get their tech goodies (thankfully for Apple, inter alia). It's only when they actually see employees, like at Wal-Mart, does the human factor occur to customers. Which is why retail will be replacing cashiers with iPads or other self-check systems (my local grocery store and McDonald's are already instituting this). Amazon already killed Borders and its employees. Netflix already killed Blockbuster (of course, everyone reviled their employes anyway). Ironic that people complain about Wal-Mart's wages while Amazon operates out of sight, with zero "retail" wages. Better no job than a low paying one! #unions Here's the thing: Of course it would be "cool" to get your product in 30 minutes. It would also be cool if Jeff Bezos himself would deliver it in a sleigh. But how would this be done profitably? Amazon is barely profitable as it is, mostly because WS has been inexplicably patient about its end game and forgiven earning little or no profits. But the business model is supposed to be, Amazon has less overhead than B&M, so it can discount its products accordingly. How would a fleet of hundreds of thousands of drones help Amazon have less overhead than competitors? They would have to be far more expensive to acquire, maintain, and energize than the sweetheart deals that UPS and FedEx offer (which the consumer pays for, BTW). After billions of CapEx, would drones really be cheaper than the shipping companies? I'm thinking it would take at least as many drone pilots/technicians per customer as Wal-Mart has cashiers. And they would certainly be harder to train than a cashier. I've already seen articles that suggest that B&M is catching Amazon in price, one reason Amazon has gone to Sunday delivery. Remember that stores like Wal-Mart have similar pricing power and tend to own their buildings, bought with local tax breaks. Also, the barriers to entry for online aren't that great, especially for the Wal-Marts and Targets. How 10 people built a competitor to Amazon.com for $1 million—in 90 daysAnd then there's the technology. The small, helicopter-like drones are typically used for surveillance by the military and law enforcement. They have little lifting power and low range, which is why for the higher payloads (like missiles and bombs) and medium to long distances, the military uses fixed-wing drones. And of course those would be impractical because they need runways. Sure, you could drop off USB cords and RAM with a helicopter, assuming you had a heliport within range. How much would it cost to build helipads throughout the entire country within flying distance of everyone's home? And how do you get the products to the heliports? Surely they can't build and stock a warehouse at every heliport. And unless they were the size of a UPS truck, they'd have to fly back and forth between the warehouse and each delivery location, rather than dropping off products house to house like UPS does. That's not very efficient. So to guarantee 30-minute delivery, they'd need like 50 drones to replace each UPS truck? 100? Would Amazon Prime members each get their own drones for $79/yr? Have you priced helo drones lately? And drones would almost certainly have to be electric. I doubt many municipalities, let alone the EPA and local AQMD's, would tolerate the loud leaf-blower-like BRAAAAAAAAAP of dirty two-stroke motors flying all over. The US Navy does have one that can carry 200lbs. They cost $18M each and are powered by jet turbines that scream like banshees. "Holy fuck honey, did a Harrier jet just land on the porch?!?! No silly, it's Amazon with your RAM." So yeah, electric. And how is that electric car battery technology evolving after 100 years? Still limited range, mostly with heavy lead-acid batteries, and that's for rolling on tires, not flying. Most helo drones carry a payload of mini cameras, not laptops and flat screens and printers. So we're going to need a bigger drone, and a bigger battery. Show me evidence this is even technologically practical, let alone profitable. Of course, the military drones can kill people, and for some of them, that's the point. Civilian drones would have to comply with FAA, NTSB, state, and local regulations, not to mention tort and privacy law in 50 states. Drones are not designed with safety in mind. Hell, I just saw some teen R/C helo pilot got his head chopped off. This is why most parks ban them except for in designated R/C fields. Imagine when one of those helo drones flies into little Timmy's birthday party with a just-in-time gift and CHOP CHOP CHOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH RUN FOR YOUR LIVES OH THE HUMANITY! General rule for privacy law in the US: aircraft can't fly lower than FAA or local regulations, or it's invasion of privacy. One of those babies flies over my property, it's going to get served with my legal process drone. And mine is really horny. People don't like Google's Street View, but that is protected by the First Amendment because, the reasoning goes, if regular cars are allowed to drive on a public street, so are Google's robot photo cars. But if Google had drones flying across your property without consent, it would likely constitute trespass and intrusion torts (man, this is turning into a great law school exam question). Which is why even privacy-raping Google hasn't tried it. I especially look forward to drones flying into bad neighborhoods. "Drone jacking" will trend on Twitter. Making them bulletproof should add a few pounds. But that doesn't solve the close-up ambush with a canvas tarp problem. "We gotchya, biiiiiiiitch! Now hand over the iPads!" Anyway, rather than hating on this idea, I look forward to Amazon wasting hundreds of millions of stockholders' dollars on this flight of fancy, instead of paying a dividend. It should be amusing. Of course they can do it in extremely limited circumstances as a PR gimmick. But actually make it work en masse? I am dubious. Keep in mind the mantra of Apple turncoat Guy Kawasaki, and I paraphrase: Invention is a good idea. Innovation is an invention with a profitable market.
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 15:07:26 GMT -8
"Imagine when one of those helo drones flies into little Timmy's birthday party with a just-in-time gift and CHOP CHOP CHOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH RUN FOR YOUR LIVES OH THE HUMANITY!"
Oh my. ;D
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Post by po1nt on Dec 2, 2013 15:13:26 GMT -8
I just see problems with the concept. Drones, esp. automated ones, would take away jobs from humans and would be widely resented. Misundertanding Amazon, The Whole Point Of Technological Advance Is To Destroy JobsConsumers don't care about jobs so long as they get their tech goodies (thankfully for Apple, inter alia). It's only when they actually see employees, like at Wal-Mart, does the human factor occur to customers. Which is why retail will be replacing cashiers with iPads or other self-check systems (my local grocery store and McDonald's are already instituting this). Amazon already killed Borders and its employees. Netflix already killed Blockbuster (of course, everyone reviled their employes anyway). Ironic that people complain about Wal-Mart's wages while Amazon operates out of sight, with zero "retail" wages. Better no job than a low paying one! #unions Here's the thing: Of course it would be "cool" to get your product in 30 minutes. It would also be cool if Jeff Bezos himself would deliver it in a sleigh. But how would this be done profitably? Amazon is barely profitable as it is, mostly because WS has been inexplicably patient about its end game and forgiven earning little or no profits. But the business model is supposed to be, Amazon has less overhead than B&M, so it can discount its products accordingly. How would a fleet of hundreds of thousands of drones help Amazon have less overhead than competitors? They would have to be far more expensive to acquire, maintain, and energize than the sweetheart deals that UPS and FedEx offer (which the consumer pays for, BTW). After billions of CapEx, would drones really be cheaper than the shipping companies? I'm thinking it would take at least as many drone pilots/technicians per customer as Wal-Mart has cashiers. And they would certainly be harder to train than a cashier. I've already seen articles that suggest that B&M is catching Amazon in price, one reason Amazon has gone to Sunday delivery. Remember that stores like Wal-Mart have similar pricing power and tend to own their buildings, bought with local tax breaks. Also, the barriers to entry for online aren't that great, especially for the Wal-Marts and Targets. How 10 people built a competitor to Amazon.com for $1 million—in 90 daysAnd then there's the technology. The small, helicopter-like drones are typically used for surveillance by the military and law enforcement. They have little lifting power and low range, which is why for the higher payloads (like missiles and bombs) and medium to long distances, the military uses fixed-wing drones. And of course those would be impractical because they need runways. Sure, you could drop off USB cords and RAM with a helicopter, assuming you had a heliport within range. How much would it cost to build helipads throughout the entire country within flying distance of everyone's home? And how do you get the products to the heliports? Surely they can't build and stock a warehouse at every heliport. And unless they were the size of a UPS truck, they'd have to fly back and forth between the warehouse and each delivery location, rather than dropping off products house to house like UPS does. That's not very efficient. So to guarantee 30-minute delivery, they'd need like 50 drones to replace each UPS truck? 100? Would Amazon Prime members each get their own drones for $79/yr? Have you priced helo drones lately? And drones would almost certainly have to be electric. I doubt many municipalities, let alone the EPA and local AQMD's, would tolerate the loud leaf-blower-like BRAAAAAAAAAP of dirty two-stroke motors flying all over. The US Navy does have one that can carry 200lbs. They cost $18M each and are powered by jet turbines that scream like banshees. "Holy fuck honey, did a Harrier jet just land on the porch?!?! No silly, it's Amazon with your RAM." So yeah, electric. And how is that electric car battery technology evolving after 100 years? Still limited range, mostly with heavy lead-acid batteries, and that's for rolling on tires, not flying. Most helo drones carry a payload of mini cameras, not laptops and flat screens and printers. So we're going to need a bigger drone, and a bigger battery. Show me evidence this is even technologically practical, let alone profitable. Of course, the military drones can kill people, and for some of them, that's the point. Civilian drones would have to comply with FAA, NTSB, state, and local regulations, not to mention tort and privacy law in 50 states. Drones are not designed with safety in mind. Hell, I just saw some teen R/C helo pilot got his head chopped off. This is why most parks ban them except for in designated R/C fields. Imagine when one of those helo drones flies into little Timmy's birthday party with a just-in-time gift and CHOP CHOP CHOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH RUN FOR YOUR LIVES OH THE HUMANITY! General rule for privacy law in the US: aircraft can't fly lower than FAA or local regulations, or it's invasion of privacy. One of those babies flies over my property, it's going to get served with my legal process drone. And mine is really horny. People don't like Google's Street View, but that is protected by the First Amendment because, the reasoning goes, if regular cars are allowed to drive on a public street, so are Google's robot photo cars. But if Google had drones flying across your property without consent, it would likely constitute trespass and intrusion torts (man, this is turning into a great law school exam question). Which is why even privacy-raping Google hasn't tried it. I especially look forward to drones flying into bad neighborhoods. "Drone jacking" will trend on Twitter. Making them bulletproof should add a few pounds. But that doesn't solve the close-up ambush with a canvas tarp problem. "We gotchya, biiiiiiiitch! Now hand over the iPads!" Anyway, rather than hating on this idea, I look forward to Amazon wasting hundreds of millions of stockholders' dollars on this flight of fancy, instead of paying a dividend. It should be amusing. Of course they can do it in extremely limited circumstances as a PR gimmick. But actually make it work en masse? I am dubious. Keep in mind the mantra of Apple turncoat Guy Kawasaki, and I paraphrase: Invention is a good idea. Innovation is an invention with a profitable market. I think the point is the Bezos is pretty keen on finding ANYWAY to get you packages cheaply the same day - That's the exciting part. I agree drones probably isn't the answer (at least in the near future), but could you imagine what it would do to retail if you could get standard 30min (or even same day) delivery?
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Post by ericinaustin on Dec 2, 2013 15:24:05 GMT -8
OK, who has an explanation for why, after what by all reports was a boffo black/cyber-weekend for Apple, AAPL has been completely beaten down today after a strong start. I'm looking for something other than "the squiggly lines said that it was about time for this to happen." The concern is out there that Apple will get its arse wiped by Chromebook in the education market. Unless Apple wants to actually compete by introducing an "ePad" or robust education targeted iOS laptop instead of the consumer devices it now has, Apple will suscum to the price point problem again and lose market share and the PR wars. iPad's are perfect for elementary level (young kids) but many secondary schools are going with Chromebooks. There's not much you can't do with cloud computing these days. Wow. No insult intended but if you substituted surface for chrome book in that statement you could be channeling Steve balmer and be just as wrong. This line of reasoning has been loosing ground for years and will probably bury Microsoft soon. The only reason chrome book will penetrate is that they will about give them away . The cloud is the whole point and is why what will count will be a great interface I.e. Screen and an ecosystem that makes it all work well together. You want a laptop buy a laptop. Hello 2010 it wants it's interface back.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 15:28:12 GMT -8
I think the point is the Bezos is pretty keen on finding ANYWAY to get you packages cheaply the same day - That's the exciting part. The exciting part is the decapitations and the skeet shooting and the dronejacking. The puzzling part is how he does it profitably. Imagine what you could do to retail if you could get products delivered in real time by a supermodel piloting a Galaxy-class starship! And she had sex with you! And it cost no more than Super Saver ($35 minimum purchase required).
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Post by ericinaustin on Dec 2, 2013 15:29:25 GMT -8
See post #1. All squiggly lines. I sold at 557 on Friday. You guys are so FOS when it comes to Amazon. Delivery in 30 minutes? Sign me up. this is why I am afraid to go to a doctor or hospital. Little focus on task at hand... Hay ! I'm an M.D. And trained in Houston and learned my surgical skills under Red Duke and Denton Cooley. Sloooooooow surgeons. So I'm very patient. Eric in Austin
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Post by coma on Dec 2, 2013 15:29:48 GMT -8
I think the point is the Bezos is pretty keen on finding ANYWAY to get you packages cheaply the same day Then Apple will have to invent the iTransporter®.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 2, 2013 15:31:58 GMT -8
Most of today's board was filled with AMZN comments .... today was also cyber-Monday .... this may have been the biggest publicity stunt Bezos and AMZN have ever pulled. We are all talking about AMZN on the biggest shopping day of the year on the internet ... a bit of subliminal seduction ... the name we have been talking about all day is now a seed planted in our subconscious as we go out and buy things online ... and chances are we may be typing in "amazon.com".
And now ... turning on Brian Williams and Nightly News....what is one of his top stories? The drones, the skies, and AMZN. Well played, Mr. Bezos, well played.
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Post by phoebear611 on Dec 2, 2013 15:36:31 GMT -8
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 15:43:13 GMT -8
T-shirt cannon at basketball, football games etc.
UPGRADE to Amazon Fulfilment Cannon.â„¢
Or - Amazon Prime Bombardmentâ„¢
Or - Amazon Prime Delivery Shellsâ„¢
Who needs drones? Just a swivel, the proper angle of delivery, and a FORRRRRREEEEE right before launch or something.
And some safety nets, hard hats, reinforced delivery shielding, etc.
You're welcome, Amazon.
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Post by rezonate on Dec 2, 2013 15:43:58 GMT -8
I'm not going to take the time to overlay uncontrolled airspace with population density maps in the US. But it's a fair bet Amazon has and understands the number of their customers that *could* be served by existing drone technology from their hubs. Households numbering in (definitely) six figures if not low 7 figures. The real rub will be FAA rules that require the pilot to operate in "see and avoid" within certain distances of clouds, obstructions and populated areas. In a piloted aircraft you take a WAG at those distances with a generous fudge factor. In a UAV you can either attach sophisticated sensors, send along a piloted chase aircraft, or lie about your ability to maintain clearance. Still, the area of uncontrolled airspace is vastly greater than controlled. Even close to high traffic airports the Class G gets within mere miles of the central air facility. Lots of houses, balconies and driveways. IF you can maintain see-and-avoid. Exciting? Yes. Practical? Not yet.
(Disclosure: commercial pilot)
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 15:43:58 GMT -8
Most of today's board was filled with AMZN comments .... today was also cyber-Monday .... this may have been the biggest publicity stunt Bezos and AMZN have ever pulled. We are all talking about AMZN on the biggest shopping day of the year on the internet ... a bit of subliminal seduction ... the name we have been talking about all day is now a seed planted in our subconscious as we go out and buy things online ... and chances are we may be typing in "amazon.com". And now ... turning on Brian Williams and Nightly News....what is one of his top stories? The drones, the skies, and AMZN. Well played, Mr. Bezos, well played. So long as they are delivering iOS devices. All I care about is the payload.
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 15:47:37 GMT -8
"The drone wasn't careful with my electronics drop shipment. Have it come back here, get the broken one and drop me a new one."
I can't see customers trusting drones with items they perceive as "fragile"...assuming they can get to trusting drones in the first place.
And it's not like Amazon drones won't have tons of...uh...ways to innocently collect "information" throughout the delivery process. Not creepy at all.
But hey, let Bezos try. As long as I don't get 'Zon-droned, bro.
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Post by mstrmac on Dec 2, 2013 16:56:58 GMT -8
The concern is out there that Apple will get its arse wiped by Chromebook in the education market. Unless Apple wants to actually compete by introducing an "ePad" or robust education targeted iOS laptop instead of the consumer devices it now has, Apple will suscum to the price point problem again and lose market share and the PR wars. iPad's are perfect for elementary level (young kids) but many secondary schools are going with Chromebooks. There's not much you can't do with cloud computing these days. Wow. No insult intended but if you substituted surface for chrome book in that statement you could be channeling Steve balmer and be just as wrong. This line of reasoning has been loosing ground for years and will probably bury Microsoft soon. The only reason chrome book will penetrate is that they will about give them away . The cloud is the whole point and is why what will count will be a great interface I.e. Screen and an ecosystem that makes it all work well together. You want a laptop buy a laptop. Hello 2010 it wants it's interface back. Yeah I see but the school boards do not see it that way. They are adopting chromebooks. My district adopted them. What was said 2 years ago and msft in commercials are saying is not true. Chromebooks are compelling period. Apple needs to compete as I explained many are seeing.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 17:05:39 GMT -8
The lawyer in me loves the 4 open rotors on this bad boy: Death From AboveReminds me of one of the scariest movies of my childhood:
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Post by ericinaustin on Dec 2, 2013 17:13:59 GMT -8
Wow. No insult intended but if you substituted surface for chrome book in that statement you could be channeling Steve balmer and be just as wrong. This line of reasoning has been loosing ground for years and will probably bury Microsoft soon. The only reason chrome book will penetrate is that they will about give them away . The cloud is the whole point and is why what will count will be a great interface I.e. Screen and an ecosystem that makes it all work well together. You want a laptop buy a laptop. Hello 2010 it wants it's interface back. Yeah I see but the school boards do not see it that way. They are adopting chromebooks. My district adopted them. What was said 2 years ago and msft in commercials are saying is not true. Chromebooks are compelling period. Apple needs to compete as I explained many are seeing. Two points 1. If by compete you mean lower the price to get the business Apple may bring economies of scale to bare to do a bit but they won't go very far nor should they. They have done very well in the academic area and this will only get better. Apple won't race to the bottom on price and I think their ecosystem and user experience will win this battle. 2. Chrome books are just cheap laptops that use the cloud. I'm not sure there is anything new there. Lots of cheap laptops out there. You may be right. Luckily google doesn't have to bet the company or make a profit on this strategy. That right there gives them a chance.
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 18:05:12 GMT -8
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Post by bud777 on Dec 2, 2013 18:12:51 GMT -8
Sometimes things happen that give one an irrefutable fix on where we stand in the cosmos. I am talking about occurrences that are so clear, so direct, that we are left to restructure our understanding of the universe and our place in it. No matter how painful, we just have to accept the revealed truth and get on with our lives. I bought a 5S about two weeks ago. This in itself should be a hugely bullish sign, because I do not part with my nickels easily. I finally got tired of my wife's hand me down 4 and decided that Siri and the fingerprint sensor were worth the upgrade. The 5S is a precision instrument. Owning one is like owning a fine swiss watch. The user interface is idiot proof. How could it be simpler? I went through the setup and had no problem getting to recognize my thumbprint. A few minutes and I was up and running. Out of habit, over the next few days, I still entered the passcode when I used it, actually forgetting about the fingerprint sensor. When I remembered it, things took a turn for the worse. I placed my forefinger on the sensor and nothing happened, it still asked for the code. I tried tapping my finger, still nothing, No matter what I did, I still had to enter the code. Then slowly, dimly, the light bulb went off. Apple certainly has succeeded in making an idiot proof security system. Bud-proof? Thats another thing entirely Delete your fingerprints on the device and re-enter - fixed the same issue for me, now works probably 99% of the time. Perhaps I was too subtle..I set it up with my thumbprint, but was trying to open it with my forefinger. Kinda like the kid trying to get into the school for the gifted by pushing on the door marked PULL
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 18:28:24 GMT -8
Amazon Drone Board Intraday Updates
Just missing an "F"
That one pic looks kinda like a flying grill. Can ya Prime Air me some hamburgers too?
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Post by JDSoCal on Dec 2, 2013 19:10:15 GMT -8
Amazon Drone Board Intraday Updates Just missing an "F" That one pic looks kinda like a flying grill. Can ya Prime Air me some hamburgers too? Do I ever make fun of you for spamming the board?
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Post by Mav on Dec 2, 2013 19:17:29 GMT -8
Hey, just saying it's pretty close.
And a grill drone could be a HUGE deal.
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Post by mstrmac on Dec 2, 2013 19:39:10 GMT -8
Yeah I see but the school boards do not see it that way. They are adopting chromebooks. My district adopted them. What was said 2 years ago and msft in commercials are saying is not true. Chromebooks are compelling period. Apple needs to compete as I explained many are seeing. Two points 1. If by compete you mean lower the price to get the business Apple may bring economies of scale to bare to do a bit but they won't go very far nor should they. They have done very well in the academic area and this will only get better. Apple won't race to the bottom on price and I think their ecosystem and user experience will win this battle. 2. Chrome books are just cheap laptops that use the cloud. I'm not sure there is anything new there. Lots of cheap laptops out there. You may be right. Luckily google doesn't have to bet the company or make a profit on this strategy. That right there gives them a chance. In a hurry. My thoughts. Even if Google makes little margin on chrome, it's the equivalent of cutting supply lines in Warfare. So that Apple cannot wage dominance in a particular region and at the same time raise awareness of Google’s ecosystem and draw converts. Not sure if Microsoft can do this but google has, example android. Apple can overcome but IMO needs A robust ios epad (a new targeted product category to education) void of the bells and whistles of the consumer product thereby cutting cost enabling a physical keyboard option to secondary education and beyond. So that school boards can analyze all options on a price point level playing field.
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