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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 19, 2012 12:30:28 GMT -8
Measured from a rally start at 519 to the high of 705, the 50% retracement lands at $612 and change. A 50% retracement isn't unusual for Apple. I really don't understand technicals, but am trying to learn. Where / when do you see the $519 start? AAPL TWO-DAY CHART:
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Post by nkmho on Oct 19, 2012 12:33:05 GMT -8
Lovey, I am having a terrible time getting the board to load on my computer and I have given up trying on the phone. On my computer when it is waiting it keeps saying something like waiting on noogies? Yeah, my bad. The place I was hosting the ticker box code must've gotten too much traffic or something, so there's a delay in loading things up. I PM'ed love w/a fix.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 19, 2012 12:33:45 GMT -8
Gosh Lovey, all I see there is more down. There are so many gaps below us it is scary. The only positive I see in that chart is the RSI compared to other WTF times. I am thinking we are on our way to the 200 DMA. It is out of my hands now. Decimated to a point of disbelief. I do not have a choice but to hold through earnings now.
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Post by Tetrachloride on Oct 19, 2012 12:34:53 GMT -8
Lovey, I am having a terrible time getting the board to load on my computer and I have given up trying on the phone. On my computer when it is waiting it keeps saying something like waiting on noogies? Diagnostic time for computer in no particular order: 1. Is it raining in your area ? 2. Is this an ongoing problem ? 3. Use an ad-blocker. 4. Reset your router and/or do a full reboot. 5. Call your internet company and ask if there is a slow-down. 6. change browsers 7. disable browsers caches including the favicons. Tinker Tool will assist in part. 8. create a new user on computer and load AFB there. 9. next Friday, order a half-dozen 27" iMac with 32 GB of Ram. -- okay, maybe not yet. 10. I used to run Yasu a lot (do not clear cookies) --> make a backup of your Home/Library folder before running Yasu or Cocktail maintenance programs. ----- 11. or wait for Lovey to try for a fix for the board
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Post by appledoc on Oct 19, 2012 12:35:28 GMT -8
I'm prepared to buy a small chunk of April BCS on Monday morning.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 12:36:21 GMT -8
Last years launch quarter saw at&t report 1.77x verizons number. Using that number we would get a 5.49 million shipped for AT&T. Guess well see next week. BUT.....we can't count out a couple of hundred thousand in extra sales on Verizon from the first ever free iPhone being available on the network (the $0 iPhone 4). So the ratio might be slightly more tilted in favour of Verizon from here on out. I'd say the opppsite is true. The amount of people out there with AT&T 3GS iPhones is staggering (that model was never made available to Verizon). Those will upgrade by the millions, which is why I expect AT&T's iPhone numbers to come in higher than expected. The market has Closed for the day/week. Thank God. I am am now taking Dramina to stop the spinning in my head, and the nausea in my stomach. Once that subsides I will post my thoughts on this whole "Hhow many iPhones did Apple sell?" question. Until then, mjuarez, I concur with your observation.
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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 19, 2012 12:37:08 GMT -8
Lovey, I am having a terrible time getting the board to load on my computer and I have given up trying on the phone. On my computer when it is waiting it keeps saying something like waiting on noogies? Yeah, my bad. The place I was hosting the ticker box code must've gotten too much traffic or something, so there's a delay in loading things up. I PM'ed love w/a fix. Mark, fixed now???
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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 19, 2012 12:38:56 GMT -8
Wow, we have had an influx of new members in the past 24 hours... I think there's a bit of portfolio panic going around. Means a bottom is near. (But never near enough, I know!)
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Post by PikesPique on Oct 19, 2012 12:38:57 GMT -8
I got 21 BuPS Jan '13 610/605 for 2.45 right near the close. I should hope AAPL will be above 610 in Jan., but with the ways things have been going... I also will get assigned on my 6 Oct '12 640 puts. After the event, I hope to sell weekly calls @ 650 or higher on those shares. I may have lost hundreds of thousands over the last few weeks, but I am managing to pick up a few grand here and there.
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Post by madmaxroi on Oct 19, 2012 12:43:15 GMT -8
FYI: Maginot line was a pre-WWII fortification. WWII started in 1939, 73 years ago. So anyone who "remembers" how its fortifications fared would have to be old as the hills and twice as dusty. And have a great memory. I'm in my 40's and I can't remember what I had for dinner last night. I am with you regarding last night's meal. Today, however, is easy. I had rotten apple for breakfast, lunch and most likely dinner.
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Post by magictrackpad on Oct 19, 2012 12:44:16 GMT -8
Wow, we have had an influx of new members in the past 24 hours... I think there's a bit of portfolio panic going around. Means a bottom is near. (But never near enough, I know!) No panic here! I joined because I'm buying, not to sell.
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Post by lovemyipad on Oct 19, 2012 12:44:26 GMT -8
Max, even on crappy days, you manage to make me laugh!! Thanks!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 12:46:13 GMT -8
Is this REALLY NOT capitulation? Only if its a broad based MARKET capitulation. The big boys are still trying to discern what happened to Google (a drugged sounding Brinn didn't help). This WTF sale isn't about Apple's performance, its about people protecting their capital from the unseen/understood boogie man.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 19, 2012 12:46:30 GMT -8
Yeah, my bad. The place I was hosting the ticker box code must've gotten too much traffic or something, so there's a delay in loading things up. I PM'ed love w/a fix. Mark, fixed now??? yep, thank you. Now about the phone the message reads, cannot connect to forum, This forum is either restricting access from proboards or the installed plug-in is not working. please contact your forum administrator. My ipad has not had a single issue? Forum presents really nice on the ipad, BTW.
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Post by PikesPique on Oct 19, 2012 12:46:30 GMT -8
I'm going to play poker tonight. If I lose a couple hundred it'll be nothing compared to today's loss in my portfolio. Besides, I can drink for free!
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Post by Zeke on Oct 19, 2012 12:46:38 GMT -8
I'd just like to thank the shitty developers of Charles Schwab's Street Smart Pro platform for their program crashing today before I could open any orders. Back in 2003 Chuck turned his nose up at my paltry, low 5 figure IRA. "We only handle RICH folks portfolios, don'tcha know." I've been with Etrade for the last 4000% in gains.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 19, 2012 12:49:58 GMT -8
I am with you regarding last night's meal. Today, however, is easy. I had rotten apple for breakfast, lunch and most likely dinner. Hey, at least you get to eat.
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Post by highway2heel on Oct 19, 2012 12:52:39 GMT -8
Nov '12 700s were way too tempting today to pass up.
What the heck, right?
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Post by Red Shirted Ensign on Oct 19, 2012 12:53:51 GMT -8
I am with you regarding last night's meal. Today, however, is easy. I had rotten apple for breakfast, lunch and most likely dinner. Hey, at least you get to eat. After grinding my teeth all week, I'm limited to applesauce.
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Post by Zeke on Oct 19, 2012 12:59:18 GMT -8
I'm not even looking at my account values right now. But in my limited experience, we near the bottom when everyone feels the pain. Those who don't have the support of a place like this, or lots of experience, capitulate when the pain gets too intense. That is the value of this place for me as primarily a buy and hold long. I can come here and get a quick reality check. Yes, I'm still up 50% this year (so far). That said, I'm a bit worried about the whole market. This has the feel of a generalized pull back, and it may not end today. October Mondays are notorious for "Bad Things" happening, especially after a bad Friday. Be careful out there. But I also have to wonder about the impending election and the obvious mis-interpretation and manipulation of many economic indicators to influence the vote. Any kind of a market crash just before the election would certainly help the Republican cause. Can you say "October Surprise"? I knew you could.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 19, 2012 12:59:32 GMT -8
I'd just like to thank the shitty developers of Charles Schwab's Street Smart Pro platform for their program crashing today before I could open any orders. Back in 2003 Chuck turned his nose up at my paltry, low 5 figure IRA. "We only handle RICH folks portfolios, don'tcha know." I've been with Etrade for the last 4000% in gains. Chuck is a lot more attentive now than when we first went long AAPL in 1993.
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Post by 4aapl on Oct 19, 2012 13:04:57 GMT -8
I may have lost hundreds of thousands over the last few weeks, but I am managing to pick up a few grand here and there. And that's the thing. Without the peak up to 705, this drop to 610 wouldn't feel anywhere as bad. I do remember that number up at the top, and am now down more than 20%. I can fixate on that, or remember that I'm up triple digits for the year to date. The bad does sure cloud the good sometimes, even if it's a relatively minor setback.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 19, 2012 13:13:16 GMT -8
Those Republicans, I don't need this BS, especially on a day like today. Yeah I guess it was the Republicans who crashed the market in 2008 also, or was it the Dems? Give me a break.
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Post by prazan on Oct 19, 2012 13:21:10 GMT -8
I'm thinking that the selling today resulted from the big tech misses of the week, ending with GOOG and MSFT. I'm feeling twinges of paranoia that someone knows something I don't regarding Apple's earnings. But even if that's the case, then that play has just been made, and a miss is priced into the stock, making today a good buying opportunity, and Monday perhaps an even better one.
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Post by phoebear611 on Oct 19, 2012 13:25:14 GMT -8
So as far as the mini iPad - I'm guessing no one really cares. They announce it - tepid applause - on to the next? There won't be one more thing....gone are the days of little surprises and AAPL's greatness with the death of Jobs?.....It seems like that is the vibe I'm getting from other threads. What say you?
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Post by appledoc on Oct 19, 2012 13:25:42 GMT -8
I'm thinking that the selling today resulted from the big tech misses of the week, ending with GOOG and MSFT. I'm feeling twinges of paranoia that someone knows something I don't regarding Apple's earnings. But even if that's the case, then that play has just been made, and a miss is priced into the stock, making today a good buying opportunity, and Monday perhaps an even better one. I have had similar thoughts. Not sure if a miss is entirely priced in though. Either way, I don't see us breaking the SMA200 unless we have a disastrous quarter or the overall market tanks.
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Post by CdnPhoto on Oct 19, 2012 13:31:35 GMT -8
I really don't understand technicals, but am trying to learn. Where / when do you see the $519 start? AAPL TWO-DAY CHART: Thanks! I actually got a bit of that. So looking at the Fib, the bottom is the $522 point with $705 as the top. We broke below the 50% today (which isn't good), so we'll have to see how that plays out on Monday. We also broke below Mav's line from $440. From you notes, we should retest the pink line around $700 again. Am I getting this right? Until very recently, technical were all voodoo to me. What is the dotted trend line?
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Post by podboy on Oct 19, 2012 13:33:41 GMT -8
Bullish Cross @bullishcross
The Apple $900 - $1000 call-spread has closed at around $9.57. I've never seen a more undervalued asset in my life.
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Post by mbeauch on Oct 19, 2012 13:35:21 GMT -8
Here is what I would like to know, what company out there has $123 standing behind every share? This has gotten ridiculous. Subtract the 123 from today's closing price 610-123=487. Then dividing that by 42.5 leaves a P/E of 11.45. How is a company with no debt, high product demand and a loyal customer base priced like this? Please give me some input because this make absolutely no sense. This does not even factor in the forward P/E. yes, I am about to lose it.
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Post by qualitywte on Oct 19, 2012 13:36:45 GMT -8
I'm thinking that the selling today resulted from the big tech misses of the week, ending with GOOG and MSFT. I'm feeling twinges of paranoia that someone knows something I don't regarding Apple's earnings. But even if that's the case, then that play has just been made, and a miss is priced into the stock, making today a good buying opportunity, and Monday perhaps an even better one. I have had similar thoughts. Not sure if a miss is entirely priced in though. Either way, I don't see us breaking the SMA200 unless we have a disastrous quarter or the overall market tanks. I agree, except I used all my dry powder already. Are we all wrong here and Kass is right? If so, please help me grasp it.
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