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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:18:12 GMT -8
We hit the low of 660.30 from thursday - see if it holds.
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Post by sponge on Oct 1, 2012 11:18:50 GMT -8
aapl is acting like it did last Oct. a strong move upward prior to the iPhone 4S release and then a sell off post Oct. so called earnings miss.
This time it is a month early and I don't expect a big sell off after Oct. earnings. To me the lows for the rest of the year will be this week or next. Especially when there is no iPad Mini.
I see $750 after OCt earnings with a sell off below $700 by mid Nov.
Buy and HOld and weeks like this don't matter much.
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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:20:49 GMT -8
650s arrived
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 1, 2012 11:22:23 GMT -8
Someone should be in jail for the way this stock trades. Serious WTF. Unfuckingnbelievable.
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Post by Mav on Oct 1, 2012 11:29:38 GMT -8
SEC: "What problem? We don't see a problem."
From my complaint to them last year:
While I don't recall saying that HFT had to be _banned_ - it's like radio, mannnnn, it's here to stay - overall, AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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Post by ccs on Oct 1, 2012 11:30:55 GMT -8
aapl is acting like it did last Oct. a strong move upward prior to the iPhone 4S release and then a sell off post Oct. so called earnings miss. This time it is a month early and I don't expect a big sell off after Oct. earnings. To me the lows for the rest of the year will be this week or next. Especially when there is no iPad Mini.I see $750 after OCt earnings with a sell off below $700 by mid Nov. Buy and HOld and weeks like this don't matter much. Looks like the invites go out on October 10th: tinyurl.com/9m25n26Hope you're wrong Spongie
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Post by mtjs on Oct 1, 2012 11:31:27 GMT -8
Someone should be in jail for the way this stock trades. Serious WTF. Unfuckingnbelievable. Yes! 60% up YTD and 65% up YOY is just CRIMINAL!
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Post by Apple II+ on Oct 1, 2012 11:32:16 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of keeping excess money (dry powder) in the bank waiting for the opportune time to open up some option positions. Do any of you purchase common shares in the meantime only to sell the shares when you feel its a lucrative time to load up with options? That's exactly what I do with my investment capital. Whenever I take options profits, I roll them into shares until I decide to increase leverage again with options. The way this proceeds ideally is to buy AAPL shares at the top, sell for a loss on a decent pullback, buy back in the options market for leveraged gains, take profits at the top and roll into shares again, rinse, and repeat. I just bought the dip in exactly this fashion.
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Post by appledoc on Oct 1, 2012 11:34:29 GMT -8
I buy. We dip. Like clockwork!
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Post by terps530 on Oct 1, 2012 11:34:31 GMT -8
hey all, i've been in paradise on my honeymoon for the past two weeks and tried to avoid trading as much as possible. Came back to AFB and was confused but found this after googling "Apple Intraday thread mav" haha.
Anyway happy to find it and will start catching up now.
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Post by Mav on Oct 1, 2012 11:34:47 GMT -8
Someone should be in jail for the way this stock trades. Serious WTF. Unfuckingnbelievable. Yes! 60% up YTD and 65% up YOY is just CRIMINAL! Prepare yourself.
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Post by jz on Oct 1, 2012 11:35:02 GMT -8
Could this be the beginning/middle/end of this pre-earnings WTF sale? I jumped 50% back in about 661... looks like I could have waited a little longer... How low do some of my prescient AFB seers think we could go?
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Post by rob_london on Oct 1, 2012 11:36:57 GMT -8
Let's see if we bounce off the 50 day MA.
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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:37:47 GMT -8
Could this be the beginning/middle/end of this pre-earnings WTF sale? I jumped 50% back in about 661... looks like I could have waited a little longer... How low do some of my prescient AFB seers think we could go? At this speed to about 645 by 4 PM
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Post by sponge on Oct 1, 2012 11:39:08 GMT -8
aapl is acting like it did last Oct. a strong move upward prior to the iPhone 4S release and then a sell off post Oct. so called earnings miss. This time it is a month early and I don't expect a big sell off after Oct. earnings. To me the lows for the rest of the year will be this week or next. Especially when there is no iPad Mini.I see $750 after OCt earnings with a sell off below $700 by mid Nov. Buy and HOld and weeks like this don't matter much. Looks like the invites go out on October 10th: tinyurl.com/9m25n26Hope you're wrong Spongie This is coming from the same source that made a big deal about an article that Forstall should be fired over maps. I don't put much stock in his sources or credability. WS does not believe it either by looking at the reaction in stock price. I do agree with AppleII that selling shares at a loss during these times and buying long options is a good strategy. I plan on doing so once we get below 650.
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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:39:22 GMT -8
My RSI on the 10 min is nearing 0 !
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Post by icam on Oct 1, 2012 11:39:37 GMT -8
$100 difference in AAPL and Goog stock price. Almost to the penny All due respect, but comparing nominal stock prices has zero comparative or analytic value, unless they have the same number of shares outstanding. CNBC likes to do it. It shows their ignorance and their desire to influence stock prices. Now if you want to compare market capitalizations, no problem, I'll be right there with you, but please refrain from comparing only stock prices. Thank you.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 1, 2012 11:40:39 GMT -8
$100 difference in AAPL and Goog stock price. Almost to the penny All due respect, but comparing nominal stock prices has zero comparative or analytic value, unless they have the same number of shares outstanding. CNBC likes to do it. It shows their ignorance and their desire to influence stock prices. Now if you want to compare market capitalizations, no problem, I'll be right there with you, but please refrain from comparing only stock prices. Thank you. +1
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Post by Mav on Oct 1, 2012 11:41:03 GMT -8
Could this be the beginning/middle/end of this pre-earnings WTF sale? I jumped 50% back in about 661... looks like I could have waited a little longer... How low do some of my prescient AFB seers think we could go? At this speed to about 645 by 4 PM Please. That's overdoing it. Let's try a 656 close.
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Post by rob_london on Oct 1, 2012 11:42:47 GMT -8
Brian White of Topeka:
"Looking back over the past nine years (i.e., 2003 through 2011), October has proven to be the best month of the year to own Apple’s stock. This is no minor statement, as Apple has generally delivered healthy stock performance over this period. Over the past nine Octobers, the stock has risen by an average of 10% MoM and had only one down October (i.e., in 2008). In fact, no other month has experienced a higher number of up years compared to October."
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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:43:46 GMT -8
At this speed to about 645 by 4 PM Please. That's overdoing it. Let's try a 656 close. Ok - 645 was a sarcastic remark. I still hope for a close above 660.
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Post by ccs on Oct 1, 2012 11:45:02 GMT -8
This is coming from the same source that made a big deal about an article that Forstall should be fired over maps. I don't put much stock in his sources or credability. WS does not believe it either by looking at the reaction in stock price. I do agree with AppleII that selling shares at a loss during these times and buying long options is a good strategy. I plan on doing so once we get below 650. "Apple blogger Jim Dalrymple, known to be a company insider, had earlier hinted that Daring Fireball’s John Gruber may be right in suggesting that October would be the launch month for the new tablet. Earlier, Jeffries analyst Peter Misek had also suggested a similar time frame for the launch event." A guy can hope...
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 1, 2012 11:45:42 GMT -8
Someone should be in jail for the way this stock trades. Serious WTF. Unfuckingnbelievable. Yes! 60% up YTD and 65% up YOY is just CRIMINAL! Right, AAPL trades solely by fundamentals. Look up "trade" and "YoY performance" and compare the definitions.
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Post by sponge on Oct 1, 2012 11:46:57 GMT -8
This is coming from the same source that made a big deal about an article that Forstall should be fired over maps. I don't put much stock in his sources or credability. WS does not believe it either by looking at the reaction in stock price. I do agree with AppleII that selling shares at a loss during these times and buying long options is a good strategy. I plan on doing so once we get below 650. "Apple blogger Jim Dalrymple, known to be a company insider, had earlier hinted that Daring Fireball’s John Gruber may be right in suggesting that October would be the launch month for the new tablet. Earlier, Jeffries analyst Peter Misek had also suggested a similar time frame for the launch event." A guy can hope... This is a better source. www.macrumors.com/2012/10/01/ipad-mini-production-reportedly-underway-in-brazil/I am now only 80% sure of no iPad Mini.
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Post by Plato on Oct 1, 2012 11:47:40 GMT -8
Yes! 60% up YTD and 65% up YOY is just CRIMINAL! Right, AAPL trades solely by fundamentals. Look up "trade" and "YoY performance" and compare the definitions. What are you trying to imply - that is does not??
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Post by ccs on Oct 1, 2012 11:49:23 GMT -8
I am now only 80% sure of no iPad Mini. So you're sayin' there's a chance...
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Post by sponge on Oct 1, 2012 11:50:52 GMT -8
I am now only 80% sure of no iPad Mini. So you're sayin' there's a chance... yep
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Post by Apple II+ on Oct 1, 2012 11:51:51 GMT -8
I do agree with AppleII that selling shares at a loss during these times and buying long options is a good strategy. I plan on doing so once we get below 650. If it dips that low, I'll buy the dip again. But I think there's a better chance of an iPad Mini.
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Post by JDSoCal on Oct 1, 2012 11:54:33 GMT -8
Right, AAPL trades solely by fundamentals. Look up "trade" and "YoY performance" and compare the definitions. What are you trying to imply - that is does not?? Look at today's range and get back to me. Some real bunniness here today.
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Post by mmombo on Oct 1, 2012 11:54:47 GMT -8
All due respect, but comparing nominal stock prices has zero comparative or analytic value, unless they have the same number of shares outstanding. CNBC likes to do it. It shows their ignorance and their desire to influence stock prices. Now if you want to compare market capitalizations, no problem, I'll be right there with you, but please refrain from comparing only stock prices. Thank you. +1 Yes I am fully aware of the difference - been doing this for over 30 years. Only making an observation based on the way the two stock prices were moving. If you think the typical retail investor isn't looking at these things (and making investing decisions accordingly) you're kidding yourself.
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